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brianpharmd 08-31-2017 08:28 PM

Slant Window passenger door lock
 

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I went to unlock the passenger door on my slant window Sunday evening after a day downtown. I put the key in and and turned it. The next thing I know the disk lock mechanism has broken and fallen out of the door latch.

Are there replacement locks for these handles? I see that Bratton's has a door handle/lock (Part 30380). I can't tell if all of the lock mechanism is out or if part of it is still in the cylinder.

Any suggestions/advice on repair/replace would be helpful. This is not a fine points car but I would like it to look period correct. If it can be repaired, is this something I can do or does it take special tools so I should find someone from the parts sticky that may be able to help?

Thanks

Brian

goodcar 08-31-2017 11:05 PM

Re: Slant Window passenger door lock
 

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Originally Posted by brianpharmd (Post 1521134)
I went to unlock the passenger door on my slant window Sunday evening after a day downtown. I put the key in and and turned it. The next thing I know the disk lock mechanism has broken and fallen out of the door latch.

Are there replacement locks for these handles? I see that Bratton's has a door handle/lock (Part 30380). I can't tell if all of the lock mechanism is out or if part of it is still in the cylinder.

Any suggestions/advice on repair/replace would be helpful. This is not a fine points car but I would like it to look period correct. If it can be repaired, is this something I can do or does it take special tools so I should find someone from the parts sticky that may be able to help?

Thanks

Brian

Howard Denker, [email protected], 402-333-1393 can probably help you.

Oldbluoval 09-01-2017 04:22 AM

Re: Slant Window passenger door lock
 

That appears to be a crown locking handle not a B&S.
My experience is find a B&S

brianpharmd 09-01-2017 06:47 AM

Re: Slant Window passenger door lock
 

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Originally Posted by Oldbluoval (Post 1521205)
That appears to be a crown locking handle not a B&S.
My experience is find a B&S

Can you define "B&S"? I guess I am not familiar with the door handle manufacturers or the terminology.

Thanks

Oldbluoval 09-01-2017 07:38 AM

Re: Slant Window passenger door lock
 

Sorry, Briggs & Stratton

BTW, check you email, I sent you one.

jw hash 09-01-2017 09:07 AM

Re: Slant Window passenger door lock
 

it looks to me as a B&S. is your key a numbered original?. or look at the part that broke off there be a key cut code on it right up next to the top. that lock is the same as used in 30-31 non scroll handles too except the crown handle. Bill I will be at Hershey this year, so maybe I will see you there.

Oldbluoval 09-01-2017 10:11 AM

Re: Slant Window passenger door lock
 

All the B&S I've seen have the open "dot" to access the cylinder release; don't see that here?? Did B&S make something else, too?
Hershey is less than 50/50 for the second time in 43 years. But all good things keeping me away. If it changes we for sure need to have dinner or meet up or something!!!

Best
BU

Kevin in NJ 09-01-2017 10:28 AM

Re: Slant Window passenger door lock
 

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It is a correct removable cylinder type handle. You can see the the spring tab that you push down through the hole in the cylinder.

What you need to do is rotate what is left until it releases from the catch in the bottom of the hole. This is assuming it rotates as it is clear your pot metal went bad here.

I have included a picture of a NOS non-crush cylinder. You can seen the U shaped hole for pushing the spring catch to remove a cylinder. The spring on the handle prevents the cylinder from turning to where the opening at the bottom allows the cylinder to be pulled out.

You can see this groove at the bottom end.

At the bottom end of the cylinder you can see the pin that operates the slot in the slider pin that locks the handle from turning.

It you can make what is left turn then you just need to turn it to an extreme to where it will pull out. If not then you need to break it out piece by piece. I believe the handle that surrounds the cylinder is steel and hard to hurt. So a dremel tool might be usable here. Do not know since I have not had to work with one like this.

Normally the ones I have were loose and I just picked the cylinder pushing past the spring and pulling the cylinder.

Note:
There are two types of cylinder. Ford on the line made all the keys the same for 31. So they got the Electrolock unit and had a tool. You put the pop out key in a cylinder and squeezed. Now that cyinder was worked by the pop out key.
Not sure of why, but the cylinder you see in the picture is not a squeeze type, but is clearly new. You need to put a key in and cut the brass bars off flush. I am thinking it is some kind of later replacement, but I have no idea.

Hope this helps.

Oldbluoval 09-01-2017 11:51 AM

Re: Slant Window passenger door lock
 

I think you all are correct. I was a bit brain dead; the "dot" is in the cylinder not the handle
Also looking on the phone doesn't give good resolution.
There was a guy on eBay "autonut" that had replacement
Cylinders. Sometimes hard to get the broken ones out but if it was recently operable might not be too bad

brianpharmd 09-02-2017 05:48 PM

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Well I got the remains of the lock out. Took a friend on a tour this morning. He turned the handle and the handle broke off!

Time to get a new handle.

Kevin in NJ 09-02-2017 07:13 PM

Re: Slant Window passenger door lock
 

Ouch!

Pretty common handles so you should be able to find something. You can also make move around tumblers on a cylinder to make it work with your current key.


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