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19Fordy 05-15-2017 04:04 PM

How To Lube Clamshell From the Top - An Idea
 

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This idea is to install a grease fitting that runs through the transmission cover from the top half of the clamshell. When clamshell is apart drill and tap for 1/8-27 NPT. Then solder, modify and screw some fittings together so that you can either pour in lubricant or use a grease gun without having to crawl under your car or remove the transmission cover. Extra padding under the floor mat reduces the bump. Even more so if you unscrew the grease fitting and cap it off with a plug. I was also thinking that if you lube you clamshell from the bottom fitting, you could tell when it's full when the lube come out the top fitting. No need to remove speedo turtle to peek inside. I know it's not OEM but neither are all my the bolts and nuts. You can still easily remove the transmission cover by loosening the top fitting.

Lawson Cox 05-15-2017 04:21 PM

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Isn't the fitting going to wallow out the hole in the transmission covers with movements of the transmission/drive shaft, besides being noisy with the movement?

Old Henry 05-15-2017 04:56 PM

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I'm hoping it's all a lot easier than that.

I'm just installing my newly rebuilt transmission and intend to reverse the top and bottom clam shells so that the grease fitting that's usually on the bottom is on the top. I'll put a straight fitting in place of the 90° stock one, then cut a whole in my floor to grease the clamshell whenever I want to. Hole will be the size of a standard plastic or rubber plug I'll get from the hardware store and, of course, covered by the floor mat when not being accessed. I might even be able to detect the depth of the lubricant around the U-joint by unscrewing the grease fitting and sticking a piece of wire as a "dip stick" into the hole to see what I get.

Anyone see any problem with that approach?

19Fordy 05-15-2017 08:55 PM

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Old Henry. I think you idea is EXCELLENT. I will do same if I find the need.

Lawson, We will see. If it doesn't work, I'll do like old Henry. I am hoping the transmission doesn't move very much, if at all.

ford38v8 05-15-2017 09:02 PM

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There's nothing wrong with the stock location of the zerk fitting. Zerks are available in any angle you need for any location. Just install a zerk of the best angle for the application, and use a flex hose on your grease gun.

19Fordy 05-15-2017 09:29 PM

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ford38v8:
You are correct. I just wanted to have a fitting on top also. Plus, that way I don't have to crawl under my car.

40cpe 05-15-2017 09:40 PM

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I don't understand the aversion to crawling under the car? Isn't the lube interval something like every thousand miles? There is no way to avoid getting under there and the brake and clutch zerks are very near the clamshell lube point.

19Fordy 05-15-2017 09:46 PM

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I think I'll let this thread die.

PeteVS 05-16-2017 08:24 PM

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I've thought that there should be two fittings. One for grease for lubing the clamp over the torque tube "bell" and another that would pass right through the "bell" to allow adding corn head grease into the U joint. You could use two bottom halves of the clamp and drill a hole through the bell and the U joint cover to line up with the top fitting?

redmodelt 05-16-2017 09:14 PM

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Not every one can get "under" the car to grease the U-joint housing. Not everyone has a nice car lift. It's a good idea, don't let the nay'ers bug you.

Old Henry 05-21-2017 10:44 PM

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So, here's what I did.

Replaced the 90° stock zerk with a straight one and put the bottom clam shell on the top so that it is accessible from the top.

http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/...psqwex4san.jpg

The zerk can be used as such but is not necessary nor the best use. I use it only as a plug for the hole. When time to fill or add grease, I remove it and the coupler on the grease gun and just shove the grease gun tube into the hole. It fits perfectly. Then I can really get some volume into that black hole fast. Remember, there is no pressure pushing back from the hole so the seal of the zerk is not necessary. Also, with the zerk removed I can actually see down into the cavity to see how much grease is in there.

http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/...psvqy6yxya.jpg

Then, I just cut a hole in the floor over the zerk to access it by just lifting the floor mat and plug the hole with a standard hole plug when I'm done. No harder than checking/filling the brake cylinder under the floor.

http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/...psilvlcb5f.jpg

In the picture, the screw and washer are the center one for the floor panel. The other bolt head is also in the center. The yellow line on the right is the edge of the floor panel.

So, why did I do this?

I have had two of what I thought were premature U-joint failures that, when I opened them up, had very little grease in the cavity. I have never been confident about the amount of grease that went in there through the stock 90° zerk that had to be accessed through the too-narrow gap between the tranny cradle and the clamshell. I had such a hard time getting any in there I let Jiffy Lube use their automatic gun to inject it, but, it always seemed such a huge amount of "spillage" around the zerk when they were done I doubted much got in. Now, I can be sure there's enough and fill it much faster, easier and with greater confidence.

Old Henry 05-21-2017 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by PeteVS (Post 1473486)
I've thought that there should be two fittings. One for grease for lubing the clamp over the torque tube "bell" and another that would pass right through the "bell" to allow adding corn head grease into the U joint. You could use two bottom halves of the clamp and drill a hole through the bell and the U joint cover to line up with the top fitting?

The zerk actually lines up with holes in the inner clamshell so that any grease going through the zerk actually goes directly into the inner cavity. The space between the two clamshell surfaces and the front flare of the torque tube are lubricated by grease moving from inside the cavity though those holes into that space.

19Fordy 05-22-2017 06:35 AM

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Old Henry: Excellent. Thanks for posting those photos.
Your Van Pelt rebuild transmission is loving it.
You will now have many miles of happy smiles.

PeteVS 05-22-2017 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Henry (Post 1475680)
The zerk actually lines up with holes in the inner clamshell so that any grease going through the zerk actually goes directly into the inner cavity. The space between the two clamshell surfaces and the front flare of the torque tube are lubricated by grease moving form inside the cavity though those holes into that space.

The bell mouth of the torque tube doesn't block the holes?

Old Henry 05-22-2017 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by PeteVS (Post 1475758)
The bell mouth of the torque tube doesn't block the holes?

No. It's not long enough.

len47merc 05-23-2017 07:21 AM

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I like your creativity and steadfast resolve Old Henry and have used many ideas of yours in the past. This one, well, I have to say I'm in Alan's court on. Not sure the need as the stock fitting, once I found the path to it, is easily accessible, for me anyway, with a flex hose. Plus I'm still running the original floor mat and cannot remove it to remove the trans cover. Will keep this in mind for a future project though - great idea!

jimTN 05-23-2017 07:31 AM

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I have done a mod like OH on all my Model T's, replaced the grease cup with zerks and rotated the cap so that I can grease from above thru a floorboard hole and get both the ujoint and drive shaft from above.

Old Henry 05-23-2017 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by len47merc (Post 1476280)
I like your creativity and steadfast resolve Old Henry and have used many ideas of yours in the past. This one, well, I have to say I'm in Alan's court on. Not sure the need as the stock fitting, once I found the path to it, is easily accessible, for me anyway, with a flex hose. Plus I'm still running the original floor mat and cannot remove it to remove the trans cover. Will keep this in mind for a future project though - great idea!


I'm happy for anyone who gets enough grease to the U-joint with the stock set-up. I just never did. That's why the change.

Phil Gillespie 06-26-2017 10:35 PM

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Just looking at this as have g/box out for clutch disc replacement. 39 Standard Coupe.
Fitting a new Universal and intend filling with Corn Head grease. Once full this can be kept full by the external grease nipple(Zerk nipple) as these holes in the lower clam shell do line up with the nipple. Under the car anyway to service other grease nipples.
However need a John Deere grease gun as the cartridges as a smaller dia than our standard ones here. Next step to then fill steering box with the Corn Head grease as per local recommendations on this site.
Always appreciate tthe good advice and information that is available.
Phil NZ

Skyking227 06-01-2025 03:22 PM

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2 Zerk fittings I want to use.
Found xtra clamshell setting upper and lower grease fittings.
I like this idea

Steve


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