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kirkf 09-14-2016 08:44 PM

Canadian 1950 F-47 (F1) V8 Engine Color
 

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The Canadian F-47s engine blocks were painted a beige color in 1950.
Does anyone know what the exact color is?

I know some people have been using Cummins Beige.

I've been wondering if Ford sprayed the blocks with the same Tuscan Tan they used on the front grill that year.

I've attached a couple pictures.
One is from a picture I found on the internet of a Canadian truck with the correct color, and the other is a picture of my transmission with the remains of the original paint.

Any help would be appreciated!

Kirk

Newc 09-14-2016 10:10 PM

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Hi all; My 48 merc pu m-47 had a gray engine and trans... Same gray as some Ford engines in the 90's ect. Newc

alanwoodieman 09-14-2016 10:28 PM

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what about the color of a Canadian mercury engine C8CM-B on the aluminum heads along with made in Canada.

Overkill-F1 09-15-2016 03:09 AM

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My '52 Canadian built Ford F1, still has some of the original paint on the transmission. I also can see this same color in a few corners of the engine block after it came back from the hot tank. I would describe it as beige or off-white. I am attaching two photos of the trani side cover with the cap of a can of Dupli-color engine enamel Cummins Beige CDE1638.
Close enough for me.
...Terry

kirkf 09-15-2016 05:37 PM

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Terry,

You're right that is pretty close. Cummins beige is nice because you can also easily get it in rattle cans or quarts if you want to spray it from a gun.

KBS Coatings Lists it here:

https://www.kbs-coatings.com/engine-paint.html

Maybe on the weekend I'll get a chance to compare the front grill color to the remaining paint on my transmission.

Kirk

kirkf 09-19-2016 11:23 AM

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The front grill (Tuscan Tan) wasn't even close.

So far the three options I've found are:

1. Cummins Beige

2. Packard Ivory

3. 1954 Ford Passenger Cream

My very unscientific paint chip comparison is visible in the picture below. The BMS-6000 is the 1954 Passenger Cream, but who knows how close any of these are to the actual color. Trying to compare scanned paint chips, to a photo of a dirty old transmission doesn't work well.

Barlea 09-19-2016 08:32 PM

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I have a can of that Cummins beige, and to me, it's too much grey to match the Ford colour. The "RV white" that the motorhomes and travel trailers used is a lot closer.

kirkf 10-03-2016 10:24 PM

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About two weeks ago I contacted Ford Heritage Canada, to see if they could shed any light on what colour engine paint they may have used.

They were kind enough to call me and tell me they have no information in their available documentation.

So I guess the only way to get an exact match would be to try and take it down and get it colour matched by a paint colour reader. (Spectrophotometer)

Kirk
(And yes I realize i'm being a tiny bit crazy about this topic.) :)

rotorwrench 10-04-2016 09:56 AM

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One of the helicopters I maintain has a yellow tint beige color that comes close to what you are looking for but the only place I could find a rattle can to match it was for home appliances and I can't find the can to ID the maker. It is almost like the beige that was used as camouflage in North Africa during WWII.

kirkf 10-04-2016 01:22 PM

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I have read that all Canadian F-47s (F1s) came with V8s and the larger oil filtration system to match the Canadian military spec at the time. With the Korean war starting on June 25th, 1950 its entirely possible that the beige paint was also part of that specification. I'm sure a lot of Ford trucks went over to Korea with the Canadian troops.

Kirk

kirkf 10-04-2016 07:22 PM

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Pale Cream No. 52
Light Stone No. 61

These were two of the standard camo paints designated for Canadian Mil spec during world war 2.

(In particular the Light Stone was designated as the colour to be used for equipment going to North Africa / Egypt in WW2)

Kirk

rotorwrench 10-05-2016 08:58 AM

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You might check the biscuit color used on home appliances. It's lighter than some. Rustoleum has it in epoxy spray rattle cans. I would prefer straight enamel though since it can take the heat very well. I'm sure that enamel paint is what was used originally. Lacquer and epoxy don't like the heat much.

Campbell Cartel 03-03-2024 03:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kirkf (Post 1354664)
The Canadian F-47s engine blocks were painted a beige color in 1950.
Does anyone know what the exact color is?

I know some people have been using Cummins Beige.

I've been wondering if Ford sprayed the blocks with the same Tuscan Tan they used on the front grill that year.

I've attached a couple pictures.
One is from a picture I found on the internet of a Canadian truck with the correct color, and the other is a picture of my transmission with the remains of the original paint.

Any help would be appreciated!

Kirk


Kirk, any luck figuring your engine color out?

Scott52 03-05-2024 09:49 AM

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The engine out of my 52 Ford was Canadian. I wanted to paint it Canadian color. Since I was not looking for the "truth", I went with Cummins Beige. Here is a photo.

petehoovie 03-05-2024 11:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott52 (Post 2295569)
The engine out of my 52 Ford was Canadian. I wanted to paint it Canadian color. Since I was not looking for the "truth", I went with Cummins Beige. Here is a photo.

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...8&d=1709650141

kirkf 03-12-2024 03:58 PM

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In the end I settled on Cummins Beige.
I think its as close as we are going to get.


Kirk

Westernswede 03-17-2024 05:22 PM

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Good luck with your color choice. I am after post counts. One more under my belt. Thanks

bssmnbll 03-18-2024 11:53 AM

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Does anyone know the original color of 50 Merc block?


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