Originally Posted by Brian SATX (Post 1293253)

And some of the SW 4 door Sedans were done by Ford I believe.

Originally Posted by forever4 (Post 1293326)

Quite possibly/likely, yes.

Originally Posted by forever4 (Post 1293480)

How did you derive that from the posts? Lots of errors.
Also, BTW the Taxi was made by Briggs

Originally Posted by forever4 (Post 1293611)

Not sure what MARC JSC discussed, but I have seen indications that make me believe just the opposite of what you pose. The stampings could have come from anywhere.

There are 'unmolested' cars existing which contain parts/features from both Briggs and Murray. Does that mean the Ford may have produced those bodies from parts procured, or that maybe Murray and Briggs sometimes supplied each other with needed parts?

I think there are probably cases where Ford built up the body at the plant using panels provided by others. The 1931 slant windshield sedan was specifically designed to be built up using panel sub-assemblies, like a Tudor for example.

The question to me is, is the interior trim simple enough to be done by the trimmers in the assemble plant? What about all the Canadian built SW fordors? Who built them, and from whose parts? Cars with considerable and complicated trim or tops were typically built and trimmed by Murray and Briggs, and were shipped complete and trimmed (or CKD) to the assembly plant.

The 1931 Slant Fordor was designed more like a mass produced steel coupe or tudor body, yet was still a rather large, heavily contented car to trim. It could have gone either way.

Also, in the 1970s it was very common to call all 1931 Slant Windshield fordor cars "Murray body". This is because the popular 'fact' was that the Murray had arched door windows and Briggs were straight. The vast majority of people at that time did not know or make the distinction that the slant window cars were a completely different construction than all the earlier Briggs and Murray cars that the rule applied to.

Despite the tendency to call them Murray body slant windshield sedans, more than 90%+ of the SW Sedans having body tags are actually Briggs 141-. Very few Murray body tag slant fordors are recorded. A much larger number have no holes at all for a body tag, so who assembled them? Possibly Ford from Murray and/or Briggs body components.

Originally Posted by Dave in MD (Post 1293200)

Pluck,
Did not some of 1930 and 31 Coupes have Briggs body tags on them?
Dave

Originally Posted by forever4 (Post 1293673)

I was stating the opposite. My observations and belief is that most 1931 slant windshield fordors were Briggs bodies, not Murray.