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graderman 04-26-2016 06:39 PM

6 volt or 8 volt??
 

Hi to somebody!! I just became the owner of a 1938 ford 81a deluxe kar. It has been restored but came with a 8 volt battery! I have had the generator rebuilt should I change it to a 6 volt battery ??? Graderman

graderman 04-26-2016 06:44 PM

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Anybody out here?? Talk to me!!!i need information!!!!

rotorwrench 04-26-2016 06:52 PM

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I would say yes. If you are running a 3-brush generator, most definitely. A two brush generator with a regulator should be too. Many folks think the 8 volt battery is the savior for all there electrical problems but it tends to be detrimental in fact. An 8 volt battery needs to be charged at 9-volts to stay hot and the 6-volt system was never designed to put that much voltage out. Light bulbs suffer a rapid decline on 9-volt if you can even get the system to make that much.

Automotive Stud 04-26-2016 06:58 PM

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It's a pretty common swap to put an 8v battery in a 6v car to make it easier to start. I wouldn't worry about it unless you are having issues.

oldford2 04-26-2016 07:25 PM

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[QUOTE=graderman;1284440]Anybody out here?? Talk to me!!!i need information!!!![/QUOTE]

Well, you post at 7:39 and 5 minutes later you come back with the above panic. Not a good start on Fordbarn in my opinion

tubman 04-26-2016 07:26 PM

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Here we go again. Proper sized cables, good grounds and connections, and an 800 CCA Optima. Problem solved, AND you get to keep your light bulbs!

tubman 04-26-2016 07:28 PM

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[QUOTE=oldford2;1284465]
Quote:

Originally Posted by graderman (Post 1284440)
Anybody out here?? Talk to me!!!i need information!!!![/QUOTE]

Well, you post at 7:39 and 5 minutes later you come back with the above panic. Not a good start on Fordbarn in my opinion

Must be used to the H.A.M.B.:D

woodiewagon46 04-26-2016 07:32 PM

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Do a search and you will see that this subject has been covered many times. As tubman suggests, make sure ALL your connections including and probably most of all the grounds and a 6 volt battery is fine.

JSeery 04-26-2016 07:54 PM

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6 volts is fine, no need for 8 and it just introduces additional problems.

Charlie Stephens 04-26-2016 08:02 PM

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I have never felt the need for 8 volts and after reading the posts I don't think I would ever try. Six is fine if the cables are the correct 6 volt size (not the modern 12 volt cables) and all of the grounds are clean. If I changed anything it would be to go to 12 volts negative ground. Do a search for "8 volt". BE SURE TO INCLUDE THE QUOTATION MARKS WHEN YOU DO THE SEARCH. If you still have questions post again.

Charlie Stephens

Diavolo 04-26-2016 09:07 PM

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You need to have 2.4V per cell over rated voltage to properly charge any battery. If you have a 8V battery on a 6V charging system, you will NEVER properly keep the battery charged and it will sulfate and die sooner, requiring replacement. Run whatever voltage you want, but have your charging system set up for it. Your charging system will need to put out 9.6V to properly charge the battery.

IMHO, run 6 or 12. Both are common enough to get parts if you're stranded. As said before, if you're having problems 8V is a band aid. Replace your wiring. Unless it was a restoration, I would just run 12 just for the fact someone might need a jump start and 12 is universal.

(I may wrong about the numbers for charging, I'm recalling from memory. If I am off, please correct my numbers.)

C26Pinelake 04-26-2016 09:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tubman (Post 1284466)
Here we go again. Proper sized cables, good grounds and connections, and an 800 CCA Optima. Problem solved, AND you get to keep your light bulbs!

A great answer! Wayne

C26Pinelake 04-26-2016 09:31 PM

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[QUOTE=oldford2;1284465]
Quote:

Originally Posted by graderman (Post 1284440)
Anybody out here?? Talk to me!!!i need information!!!![/QUOTE]

Well, you post at 7:39 and 5 minutes later you come back with the above panic. Not a good start on Fordbarn in my opinion

You said what many thought! Wayne

jerry shook 04-27-2016 06:27 AM

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I changed to 8 volt on two of my cars works great. been several years with no problems. Change to a 8 volt alternator, battery and twek the voltage regulator that all and enjoy your ride.

DD931 04-27-2016 06:35 AM

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Some subjects never die!!

rotorwrench 04-27-2016 08:21 AM

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If a person going to do a change, why not go all the way and change to 12-volt. This subject gets pounded to death and it boils down to whether you want OEM or Rube Goldberg to fix your problems.

swanwaco32 04-27-2016 09:12 AM

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I have made the 8v change for years on old Fords and VW,s. worked on VW,s for 45 years for a living and it works great..!!

JM 35 Sedan 04-27-2016 10:38 AM

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Check and recheck all of your ground connections. Make sure they are clean, bright/shinny, and tight. Once I had all the connections on my '35 fordor as mentioned above, my 6V Optima spins the engine at start up as if I had a 12 volt system. I feel there is no need for an 8 or 12V system in my cars, when 6V works so well.

JSeery 04-27-2016 11:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by swanwaco32 (Post 1284706)
I have made the 8v change for years on old Fords and VW,s. worked on VW,s for 45 years for a living and it works great..!!

Don't believe anyone is saying it won't work, were saying there are much better ways to go! Fix the 6v to work correctly or convert to 12v. Their are many advantages to using common parts.

V8COOPMAN 04-27-2016 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jerry shook (Post 1284627)
Change to a 8 volt alternator, battery and twek the voltage regulator that all and enjoy your ride.

Yup........It should really be easy to find a replacement for that 8v ALTERNATOR on a Sunday afternoon in Butt-lick, Missouri. DD


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