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cowtown 04-23-2016 12:11 PM

Ttransmission removel from F1 HELP!
 

I am getting ready to remove my 4 speed tranny and install a newly rebuilt 3 speed top loader along with clutch and everything that goes along with it in my 50 F1. I just put it up on jack stands and ready to start. My question is that it doesn't look like there is enough room to slide the 4 speed tranny back from the engine because of the cross member sitting so close. Am I missing something ????

JSeery 04-23-2016 12:31 PM

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Per the manual it can be removed.

Hoist vehicle and drain lubricant.
Remove Seat cushion and floor plate
Place support under the rear of the engine
Disconnect drive shaft
Remove any linkage connected to transmission
Disconnect clutch equalizer shaft
Disconnect speedometer cable
Disconnect transmission at engine rear support and at the bellhousing
Pull transmission the rear until spline shaft is clear of the clutch
Lift transmission through the opening in the floor.

I've never done it, that is just from the manual!

cowtown 04-23-2016 12:42 PM

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I have the manual and read the same thing. But I just measured it and there is only 3/4" of a inch between the rear of the tranny and the cross member. Got to go back farther than that. Doesn't It?

JSeery 04-23-2016 12:44 PM

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Yep it would need the thickness of the pressure plate plus the distance from the flywheel surface to the front side of the pilot bearing, darn that manual! Maybe someone with some actual experience will jump on before long!

estout81 04-23-2016 01:06 PM

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Jack up the rear of engine.

gearhead1952 04-23-2016 04:03 PM

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Those 4 speeds are heavy. I could not imagine trying to pull one out of the trans opening. Probably want to take the seat out if you try it. If your truck is all painted up would be another reason not try it. Not much room at the rear between trans and crossmember.

cowtown 04-23-2016 04:07 PM

Re: Ttransmission removel from F1 HELP!
 

Got the seat out and going to pull with engine hoist.

Ianrhall 04-23-2016 04:11 PM

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I just did mine, got the box out(just) but to reinstall I had to remove the crescent shaped mounting from the crossmember, would have been "much" easier had I removed that first!

Charlie ny 04-23-2016 06:07 PM

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I 'done' that job.........4spd out thru cab. I yanked a nonsyncro from a '51 F1 and installed a side shift......the job seemed as though it would never end. As you know the 4 spd driveshaft and the 3 spd driveshaft are way not the same.
Charlie ny

cowtown 04-23-2016 07:46 PM

Re: Transmission removel from F1 HELP!
 

Yep Got the right drive shaft and its ready to go. Any other tips on getting the 4 speed out of the truck? Hope to get it out tomorrow.

35fordtn 04-23-2016 07:58 PM

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I have done that conversion on a truck I had a few years ago. Be ready for severe back pain the next week after!! If I recall I jacked the rear of the engine removed the mount and it narrowly came out. Much easier with two people.

Ford Freak 04-24-2016 03:22 PM

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^^What 35ford said^^ You have to jack up the rear of the engine , and it will just clear . And , make sure you have a helper !

Ken Crans 04-24-2016 05:48 PM

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Got that done yet?? lol Its a pain!

Ross F-1 04-24-2016 06:04 PM

Re: Ttransmission removel from F1 HELP!
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSeery (Post 1282394)
Per the manual it can be removed.

Hoist vehicle and drain lubricant.
Remove Seat cushion and floor plate
Place support under the rear of the engine
Disconnect drive shaft
Remove any linkage connected to transmission
Disconnect clutch equalizer shaft
Disconnect speedometer cable
Disconnect exhaust pipe(s)
Disconnect lower radiator hoses
Loosen (don't remove) front motor mounts
Pull starter and starter plate
Raise engine by jacking at rear of pan until trans "ears" clear rear support

Disconnect transmission at engine rear support and at the bellhousing
Pull transmission the rear until spline shaft is clear of the clutch
Lift transmission with a cherry pickerthrough the opening in the floor from the passenger door opening.

I've never done it, that is just from the manual!

Done this more times than I care to tell.... at least with the LD trans you can just reach down and pick it up.

cowtown 04-25-2016 06:51 AM

Re: Ttransmission removel from F1 HELP!
 

Got it ready to come out but need to bring home cherry picker from storage and it was raining all day yesterday. So Hopefully today will get it out. I will keep you informed. Thanks for all the help!

Ianrhall 04-25-2016 12:38 PM

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Cherry picker!! 2 people can lift it out fairly easily

Ross F-1 04-25-2016 12:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ianrhall (Post 1283599)
Cherry picker!! 2 young people with strong backs can lift it out fairly easily

Fixed it for you! The 4-sp weighs just over a hundred pounds. Not a lot of room in the cab, even with the seat out. It's likely greasy and not much to grab onto.

cowtown 04-25-2016 04:27 PM

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Got it out by myself with the picker! What a job and no room for error! Hope the new one goes in easier. Going to go and drop off fly wheel at machine shop. No Way will I do this again. I am getting to old for this much work.

JSeery 04-25-2016 04:46 PM

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Good thinking!

DD931 04-26-2016 04:12 PM

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When I did this swap a few years ago my brother and I manhandled the four speed out. I don't remember it being all that horrible!! The three speed is noticeably lighter, of course, but two people make it much much easier. Take the time to line up the clutch disk properly with an alignment tool so that the tranny will slip in easily. When you're all done you'll think you have a new truck!! Such an improvement in drivability!!


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