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JimKrejci 03-01-2016 10:57 AM

Door Latches for 1929 Closed Cab PU
 

Which vendor has the best quality door latch? Catalogs show quite a price difference. I'm looking for USA-made, of course, but want the best quality part. Thanks for your help!

wrndln 03-01-2016 11:06 AM

Re: Door Latches for 1929 Closed Cab PU
 

I think you would be better off buying original latches and restoring them if they need it. That is what I am doing for my 29 CCPU. CCPU latches show up on eBay fairly often. I think someone told me that the repro latches are made by a company in Australia, however they could actually be made in China or other cheap labor country. I haven't heard about the quality of the CCPU door latches. I know repro open car latches are not well made, but that doesn't mean pickup latches are poorly made. This is just my opinion.
Rusty Nelson

31Tudor 03-01-2016 11:08 AM

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Unless things have changed, door latches are not available. I have a 28 pickup and years ago that was one part that I searched for. They were not making them. I didn't look however in Bratton's or ?? before I answered. If the parts houses have them now, my guess is it is going to be made by one manufacturer and then carried by many.

Dave in MN 03-01-2016 12:22 PM

Re: Door Latches for 1929 Closed Cab PU
 

It sounds like you want to replace rather than restore. I cannot answer your question as to best made but I have used the new CCPU door latches from Snyder's and found them to be well built and function flawlessly. The 2015 catalog states "USA" so I have to assume that means made in the USA. Save your originals to pass along to those that like rebuilding them.
The Snyder's latches I used were purchased in November of 2015.
Good day.


The photos and information below is from the Snyder's website:



A-80081
  1. http://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/Co...81-4045-sm.jpg
  2. http://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/Co...82-4987-sm.jpg
  3. http://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/Co...k--4513-sm.jpg
1926-27 Coupe/Tudor 1928-29 CC Truck Door Latch

Finally, new American made latches that fit the 1928-29 Closed Cab Truck as well as the 1926-27 Coupe and Tudor Sedan. The latch body is zinc plated, the actuating arm is nickel plated as was the original. The latches function just like the originals, the driver's side will lock and the passenger side has provisions for the lock cylinder. An Excellent Reproduction!

Choose a Variation
  1. Quantity A-80081 $110.00 / ea.
    Left
  2. Quantity A-80082 $110.00 / ea.
    Right

fiftyv8 03-01-2016 02:29 PM

Re: Door Latches for 1929 Closed Cab PU
 

Talk to Steve at Bert's Model A Center.
I had reason to advise Steve about 6 months ago of a small issue with some Repro latches.
I forget the exact issue but I am sure Steve will recall as he was going to contact the Maker to have it corrected.
What I do recall is that Steve said there are two Makers of latches.
So best talk to him first and he also sells them.
Restoring old latches is slow if you need parts and buying restored latches from say ebay does not guarantee that they are done well.
One restored latch I purchased from ebay a good number of years ago turned out to be missing the internal lock mechanism gismo, try and find one of those suckers.
I borrowed one and hand copied it - what a job.....
Also when opening the old latches up, you must be careful not to break the tags off.

Spokes 03-01-2016 04:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fiftyv8 (Post 1251057)
Talk to Steve at Bert's Model A Center.
I had reason to advise Steve about 6 months ago of a small issue with some Repro latches.
I forget the exact issue but I am sure Steve will recall as he was going to contact the Maker to have it corrected.
What I do recall is that Steve said there are two Makers of latches.
So best talk to him first and he also sells them.
Restoring old latches is slow if you need parts and buying restored latches from say ebay does not guarantee that they are done well.
One restored latch I purchased from ebay a good number of years ago turned out to be missing the internal lock mechanism gismo, try and find one of those suckers.
I borrowed one and hand copied it - what a job.....
Also when opening the old latches up, you must be careful not to break the tags off.

Bert's in Denver is Great and Very Helpful. Honest Shipping charges. I live in California and receive my orders fast. I had trouble with a Locking Door Handle I ordered and Bert's sent Me 2 more free of charge to try and they Paid for the Postage. The second one works Great now I am returning the others to Berts

Synchro909 03-01-2016 04:44 PM

Re: Door Latches for 1929 Closed Cab PU
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrndln (Post 1250950)
I think you would be better off buying original latches and restoring them if they need it. That is what I am doing for my 29 CCPU. CCPU latches show up on eBay fairly often. I think someone told me that the repro latches are made by a company in Australia, however they could actually be made in China or other cheap labor country. I haven't heard about the quality of the CCPU door latches. I know repro open car latches are not well made, but that doesn't mean pickup latches are poorly made. This is just my opinion.
Rusty Nelson

Ain't that the truth!!! A more worthless piece of junk is hard to imagine. Before fitting mine, I had to repair them and within weeks of fitting them, I had to dismantle them and make a new "Slider". The ones that came with it were made of muck metal and wore out in no time so the doors started to spring open.
I find it alarming that parts suppliers even accepted these POS as part of their inventory. They obviously did no checks on their suitability for doing the job before trying to make a few $ on them. Over here, sellinhg a product not suitable for the purpose for which it was sold would leave the vulnerable to a law suit. Obviously, consumer protection laws are weak in the US.:mad:

BILL WILLIAMSON 03-01-2016 05:17 PM

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I got new latches for my '29 Coupe from Brattons, VERY reasonable, & looks like stainless???---They are SO pretty, that I DIDN'T even paint them!
Bill W.

SeaSlugs 03-01-2016 05:32 PM

Re: Door Latches for 1929 Closed Cab PU
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by fiftyv8 (Post 1251057)
Talk to Steve at Bert's Model A Center.
I had reason to advise Steve about 6 months ago of a small issue with some Repro latches.
I forget the exact issue but I am sure Steve will recall as he was going to contact the Maker to have it corrected.
What I do recall is that Steve said there are two Makers of latches.
So best talk to him first and he also sells them.
Restoring old latches is slow if you need parts and buying restored latches from say ebay does not guarantee that they are done well.
One restored latch I purchased from ebay a good number of years ago turned out to be missing the internal lock mechanism gismo, try and find one of those suckers.
I borrowed one and hand copied it - what a job.....
Also when opening the old latches up, you must be careful not to break the tags off.

ive got 5 latches in various conditions and they all seem to be severely worn in the same few spots, going to take ALOT of careful welding to get the latch pivot holes back round... if its even possible.

BILL WILLIAMSON 03-01-2016 08:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SeaSlugs (Post 1251133)
ive got 5 latches in various conditions and they all seem to be severely worn in the same few spots, going to take ALOT of careful welding to get the latch pivot holes back round... if its even possible.

Dog:cool: here, SeaSlug, you kin do it, whin Ol' Bill gits flustered, I jist "tell" him, recomember now, jist one little thing at a time----Fresno wuzn't built in a DAY! Then he looks at me FUNNY:confused:
Buster T.:cool:

Joe K 03-01-2016 08:36 PM

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Back about 2005 when I was still active in the Model A (before the job REALLY changed) I had a pair of 29 CC pickup door handles restored by PV Antique Auto out in Western MA. I was stationed in my work nearby and it gave me something to do nights in the motel. They did a pretty fair job to include the plastic piece in the square (which they indicate was originally fabric covering painted with MANY coats of paint - which the plastic simulates perfectly - and is more weather resistant.)

I was pleased they did the work as the door handles are made up of discrete pieces which all have to be disassembled - and then reassembled after plating/restoration - and then carefully soldered on the back side.

On receipt of the handle and after having paid and still having some money left over (and a good income) I decided to experiment and buy a pair of the then "repop" available handle. Just to compare, mind you. The repop was a little more than 1/3rd the price of the restored handles.

Well, the first may not be the LAST Model A truck I restore.

The repop handle was "close." Not exact. For instance, the repop was not soldered on the backside. Super glued, I think. And the cylinder portion connecting handle to body escutcheon was "straight" and not tapered as were the originals.

For judging, an original handle is the ONLY way to go - since the differences are apparent to the knowing. But for functionality and appearance among the unwashed masses, the repop was AOK. A quality - good - but not exceptionally accurate repop.

Joe K

Pickupman 03-02-2016 09:13 AM

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The question is about Latches not Handles.:confused: :eek:


Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe K (Post 1251242)
Back about 2005 when I was still active in the Model A (before the job REALLY changed) I had a pair of 29 CC pickup door handles restored by PV Antique Auto out in Western MA. I was stationed in my work nearby and it gave me something to do nights in the motel. They did a pretty fair job to include the plastic piece in the square (which they indicate was originally fabric covering painted with MANY coats of paint - which the plastic simulates perfectly - and is more weather resistant.)

I was pleased they did the work as the door handles are made up of discrete pieces which all have to be disassembled - and then reassembled after plating/restoration - and then carefully soldered on the back side.

On receipt of the handle and after having paid and still having some money left over (and a good income) I decided to experiment and buy a pair of the then "repop" available handle. Just to compare, mind you. The repop was a little more than 1/3rd the price of the restored handles.

Well, the first may not be the LAST Model A truck I restore.

The repop handle was "close." Not exact. For instance, the repop was not soldered on the backside. Super glued, I think. And the cylinder portion connecting handle to body escutcheon was "straight" and not tapered as were the originals.

For judging, an original handle is the ONLY way to go - since the differences are apparent to the knowing. But for functionality and appearance among the unwashed masses, the repop was AOK. A quality - good - but not exceptionally accurate repop.

Joe K


JohnLaVoy 03-02-2016 01:19 PM

Re: Door Latches for 1929 Closed Cab PU
 

The more expensive USA made door latch is an excellent choice. We reviewed them when they first came out. Well made and very exact.

Joe K 03-02-2016 05:54 PM

Re: Door Latches for 1929 Closed Cab PU
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pickupman (Post 1251417)
The question is about Latches not Handles.:confused: :eek:


Thank you. I did see that after making the entry - but decided to leave it. If one is interested in latch they might be interested in handle.

Joe K

JimKrejci 03-03-2016 07:18 PM

Re: Door Latches for 1929 Closed Cab PU
 

Thanks so much, everyone. I'm going to go with the USA made from Snyders! Appreciate your thoughts.

Jim

fiftyv8 03-04-2016 02:24 AM

Re: Door Latches for 1929 Closed Cab PU
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave in MN (Post 1250989)
It sounds like you want to replace rather than restore. I cannot answer your question as to best made but I have used the new CCPU door latches from Snyder's and found them to be well built and function flawlessly. The 2015 catalog states "USA" so I have to assume that means made in the USA. Save your originals to pass along to those that like rebuilding them.
The Snyder's latches I used were purchased in November of 2015.
Good day.


The photos and information below is from the Snyder's website:



A-80081
  1. http://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/Co...81-4045-sm.jpg
  2. http://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/Co...82-4987-sm.jpg
  3. http://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/Co...k--4513-sm.jpg
1926-27 Coupe/Tudor 1928-29 CC Truck Door Latch

Finally, new American made latches that fit the 1928-29 Closed Cab Truck as well as the 1926-27 Coupe and Tudor Sedan. The latch body is zinc plated, the actuating arm is nickel plated as was the original. The latches function just like the originals, the driver's side will lock and the passenger side has provisions for the lock cylinder. An Excellent Reproduction!

Choose a Variation
  1. Quantity A-80081 $110.00 / ea.
    Left
  2. Quantity A-80082 $110.00 / ea.
    Right

Note, some of the latches found will be square and not have the rounded arched lower line.

Other thing is a hint for fitting the separate lock barrel shaft.
Work out what length you require when using a repro item.
Cut the shaft to length and then drill a small countersunk/hole into the square end of the shaft.

When fitting the shaft take a piece of wire or scribe and poke it from the inside of the door latch (thru the square pawl hole)and find the countersink and let the wire guide the end of the shaft thru into the square lock pawl.

ccb360 03-04-2016 07:08 AM

Re: Door Latches for 1929 Closed Cab PU
 

A recently purchased driver side door latch from S&J functioned fine but did not lock as original. (Sent it back w/o issues)

Snyder's appears the way to go if you only need one side. Bratton's only sells the pair.

fiftyv8 03-04-2016 03:49 PM

Re: Door Latches for 1929 Closed Cab PU
 

I did some checking and can tell you the issue with the repro latch relates to the length of the main hinge pin.
The main hinge pin is the shaft that holds the tongue which clicks into the "B"pillar in place.
If this shaft is a touch too long then it interferes with the rotation of the locking pawl and wont let the pawl complete its full turn during attempting to lock the door with the key.
It is an easy fix and I believe the maker has been advised so I guess it is all fixed now.
I hope my use of terms to describe things is under stood.
If not feel free to advise.


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