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Charles Reese 01-23-2016 04:56 PM

E28-Floor Weather Pad (S Column)
 

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Like so many others… bad case of cabin fever here in mid-Atlantic … going through my “A” photos while I still have power.
Would appreciate comments as to the correct shape and installation of A-35122-AR FLOOR WEATHER PAD. I apologize to anyone I should acknowledge for the attached photos-early in my collecting I failed to record my sources.

A: possibly an original pad? Seems to have been previously (crudely) installed. However, the original molded areas for screws were not used (and are a very different shape than other examples). Note the ‘flange' around the 3 edges IS a uniform size.

B: reproduction (don’t recall source). ‘oval’ shape of molding around pedals. ‘Flange’ around the 3 edges is NOT uniform size.

C: reproduction (popular vendor). Pedal holes similar to original; oblong screw holes. ‘Flange’ around the 3 edges is NOT uniform size.

D: reproduction (popular vendor). “Someone”:rolleyes: assumed the thin flanges around the edges were left over from the molding process … trimmed them off …now feel they should remain and be tucked under floor mat/carpet … expensive lesson learned:eek: Anyone interested in a ‘modified’ repro?

** Would much enjoy any photos of original pads
Stay warm and safe!!

Steve Plucker 01-23-2016 05:21 PM

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Interesting to have vendors go to all the trouble to make B, C, and D when they could of copied an original and be done with it.

Interesting samples Charles.

Is "A" of solid rubber or is there a cloth reenforcement within?

Pluck

Pinesdune 01-23-2016 05:30 PM

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Here's what came in one of my boxes for m'lady, I imagine it's original, but who knowshttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...0569dd2b4c.jpg


Looking for the front bumper emblem that has "Ford, Made In Canada"

d.j. moordigian 01-23-2016 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Plucker (Post 1228986)
Interesting to have vendors go to all the trouble to make B, C, and D when they could of copied an original and be done with it.

Interesting samples Charles.

Is "A" of solid rubber or is there a cloth reenforcement within?

Pluck

Steve,...I thought it had a piece of "sheet metal", with the rubber molded
around it..

Pinesdune 01-23-2016 05:35 PM

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Here's another pic with a piece that fell off the bottom corner, my car is a March 28 Canadian built http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...f0db0c5b9c.jpg


Looking for the front bumper emblem that has "Ford, Made In Canada"

Charles Reese 01-23-2016 05:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Plucker (Post 1228986)

Is "A" of solid rubber or is there a cloth reenforcement within?

Pluck

i've not seen an original...

The JS say: "There was a pyramid patterned rubber pad (weather seal) with a metal core around the steering column. "
(assume similar to later style 2-piece)

d.j. moordigian 01-23-2016 05:46 PM

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If you look at #5, top of the photo,..you can see the metal inner structure..

Steve Plucker 01-23-2016 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by d.j. moordigian (Post 1228991)
Steve,...I thought it had a piece of "sheet metal", with the rubber molded
around it..

You are right DJ!

Pluck

Charles Reese 01-23-2016 05:56 PM

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Again, I apologize for not having source info ....
this pix suggest the 2-piece plates are embedded ... but could be he's just comparing

2manycars 01-23-2016 06:02 PM

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The original that I have has the metal moulded into the whole pad, like the photo in post #5, where you can see the metal sticking out by the pedal holes, where the rubber has been broken off.

Charles Reese 01-23-2016 06:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinesdune (Post 1228993)
Here's another pic with a piece that fell off the bottom corner

intersting "orphan" hole (drilled?) in right side of mounting area ... purpose?

Charles Reese 01-23-2016 06:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 2manycars (Post 1229013)
The original that I have has the metal moulded into the whole pad

can you kindly post pix? (NEVER too many pix of original items!!)

Pinesdune 01-23-2016 06:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles Reese (Post 1229016)
intersting "orphan" hole (drilled?) in right side of mounting area ... purpose?


I have no idea, I didn't take it apart and there's no sign of it purpose looking at the floorboards


Looking for the front bumper emblem that has "Ford, Made In Canada"

Tom Wesenberg 01-23-2016 10:22 PM

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In 2000 I bought a repro plate from Bratton's, and it has the metal plate molded in, just like my original. My original was in bad shape, but I saved it somewhere.
I'll look around for it, but don't hold your breath. :confused:

SteveB31 01-24-2016 12:59 PM

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Years ago a flimsy repro was made with no metal inside. It was 70s - early 80s. About 15 years ago we acquired several nice originals and made a mold using them as the example. We have made and sold 1700 of them, and are the only ones that have made them in the last 30 years. The have a metal reinforcement inside as do all of the original ones. We make these one at a time by hand as well as numerous other exact copies for other rubber parts such as Cabriolet (both 68B and 68C) and Sport coupe landau iron spacers? Iwill tame some photos Monday and post here.

Steve Becker
Bert's Model A Center

Steve Plucker 01-24-2016 01:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveB31 (Post 1229352)
Years ago a flimsy repro was made with no metal inside. It was 70s - early 80s. About 15 years ago we acquired several nice originals and made a mold using them as the example. We have made and sold 1700 of them, and are the only ones that have made them in the last 30 years. The have a metal reinforcement inside as do all of the original ones. We make these one at a time by hand as well as numerous other exact copies for other rubber parts such as Cabriolet (both 68B and 68C) and Sport coupe landau iron spacers? Iwill tame some photos Monday and post here.

Steve Becker
Bert's Model A Center

Thank you Mr. Becker!

Pluck

DougVieyra 01-24-2016 01:06 PM

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Thanks for the post Steve, and for all the effort you put in this (and many other) project. It is MUCH appreciated by the Model A community.


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