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rglaab 10-19-2010 11:36 AM

30 closed cab seat wood
 

I am looking for a photo that shows the seat mount clips and wood for a 30 closed cab. I am trying to mount this correctly the first time. Thanks in advance for the help.

Brentwood Bob 10-21-2010 12:16 AM

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Are you looking for the clips that hold the seat back? Is the wood the wood behind the seat? Bob

rglaab 10-21-2010 07:42 AM

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Yes, The seat clips and a fourth piece of wood that was included in the kit. I have the three vertical boards installed to the back side of the seat riser. Thanks

Doug Cox 10-21-2010 08:10 AM

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The forth piece of wood has me guessing that it maybe the board that is the vertical support set in the middle of the seat riser. It provides the needed support for the seat spring. Otherwise it is the support that attaches to the back of the cab and above the seat back. The seat back on my late 1930 pick hangs from the top by four metal brackets spot welded to the back of the cab. Not all cabs were made the same, likewise attaching the bottom of the seat back to the three slanted wood supports were either pointed barbs or a bent clamp that looks like a cable clamps.

The photos that I have on hand are not exactly what you need but I hope they help some.

If this is not what you need let us know.

Neil Wilson 10-21-2010 09:37 AM

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The 1930 closed cab initially used brackets welded to the cab back to hang the seat back. This design require the lower clip to be as shown below. This prevents the seat back from lifting off the brackets.

rglaab 10-21-2010 04:03 PM

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Yes, I have the vertical boards attached but the clips are not welded on. I have 4 clips from snyders to hang the seat, but don't know exactly where they go.

Neil Wilson 10-22-2010 10:54 AM

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Hmm - no pictures of what you have from Snyders makes it a lot of guess work in trying to answer questions (just an FYI). Vendor reproduction parts may not be like original!

Attached are pictures of the upper/lower clips used after the welded on hanger clips were eliminated (probably in late 1930). My thinking is that the upper clips are crimped onto the seat back and then screwed to the cross board. Otherwise the seat back could just pulled out of the three upper clips. Only the seat cushion should be removable without tools.

I have found two locations for the lower clips as shown in the picture. The lower location puts the clip at the bottom of the seat. My '31 cab is the one with the higher clips which end up closer to the center of the seat back (strange to me).

The lower clips need to be installed so that the seat back can be forced onto the lower clips and then the upper clips screwed to the cross board. The installed seat back should have some resistance between the upper and lower clips. So, the seat back spring (original or reproduction) is going to determine the location of the lower clips.

There would be 3 top clips and 2 bottom clips (5 total).

CAPE A 02-21-2014 02:42 PM

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So thats what im missing. i have holes in the wood and was going to fill in.
ill be looking for clips now. the pointed clips at the bottom are like the ones shown
low in pic. Late 31 ccpu

CAPE A 02-21-2014 04:53 PM

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I am missing the board under the seat can anyone trace one and send the trace to me. Pm me thanks cape a

larry harding 03-03-2017 06:09 PM

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i looked at a 30 pickup today, the upper brackets looked like the ones in neil wilsons post as best as i could tell. the seat back didn't want to pull out and i didn't want to force it.
the ones listed in the catalogs i have look nothing like any of the ones in the posts. there must have been several different versions, from welded to the cab back to below the belt rail to in front of the belt rail. unless someone has better advice i think i will try to fabricate some like in the wilson post and like in the truck i saw today.

Larry Jenkins 03-03-2017 08:44 PM

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Brace Bailey has a new set of rear seat spring hangars (4) that came from Snyders that screw to the horizontal rail under the rear window on his 1930 CCPU. Maybe he'll post an image of them.

I think he may also have a drawing showing the attachment locations.

Brace Bailey 03-03-2017 11:06 PM

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I've not started seat research yet... so I don't know how much this will help.
Our (Larry is still part of the CCPU blood line) pickup has four clips welded on
At the beltline. I have also shown the clips from Snyders - but I'm not sure yet
Where they go. I know there are clips that go on the three up-right boards.

I'll have to do some more research on this one..... I put the seat back in, but I'm not sure how it is suppose to fit or attach.

I'll see if I can make better sense out of it tomorrow.

Larry Jenkins 03-04-2017 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Brace Bailey (Post 1437593)
I've not started seat research yet... so I don't know how much this will help.
Our (Larry is still part of the CCPU blood line) pickup has four clips welded on
At the beltline. I have also shown the clips from Snyders - but I'm not sure yet
Where they go. I know there are clips that go on the three up-right boards.

I'll have to do some more research on this one..... I put the seat back in, but I'm not sure how it is suppose to fit or attach.

I'll see if I can make better sense out of it tomorrow.

Well done.

Ed Saniewski 03-04-2017 08:06 AM

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Brace, are those 4 clips on the belt line meant to hold the seat? they look like the clips that are used to hold kick panel cardboard material.

BILL WILLIAMSON 03-04-2017 12:01 PM

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I "wonder" how many NEW Pickup sales were lost because folks COULDN'T fit in them????
Bill W.

Brace Bailey 03-04-2017 07:07 PM

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I think the clips should be bent back up to 90 degrees to hold the seat.
The clips from Snyders don't appear to go on the top wood - the seat springs are too wide to hook on them. I think they go down below. I'm still looking for the seat board - maybe they mount on it?

I'm also posting a picture of the Z channel for Mike... Spot welded on.

Larry Jenkins 03-04-2017 08:47 PM

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Brace.. Look in Les Andrew's green book to see if he shows the attachment drawings. Also, a call to Tom at Snyders would clarify things somewhat..

Mikeinnj 03-04-2017 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by CAPE A (Post 828044)
I am missing the board under the seat can anyone trace one and send the trace to me. Pm me thanks cape a

Here is a photo of one installed. You can make one out of a piece of pine, paint it green to match.

SSsssteamer 03-04-2017 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikeinnj (Post 1438033)
Here is a photo of one installed. You can make one out of a piece of pine, paint it green to match.

The pine that we have available here in the Northwest is a soft wood and it is fragile. A more of a durable wood like maple or ash would be my choice of wood to use. My guess as to the type of wood that I had pulled out of my '31 CCPU's seat divider looked to be more like maple. The board was still good enough to use as a pattern for the replacement board.

Brace Bailey 03-06-2017 01:22 PM

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I was placing an order with Snyders - and gave Tom a call about several different things....
Here is the scoop on the Seat hangers:
Two ways to go - weld on upper clips, or screw on to the upper wood channel.
Either kit will work, but doesn't include the clips that I posted earlier in the Thread.

The earlier brackets could be used as lower mounts, mounted point down on two of the wood uprights. Assuming the weld on clips, the seat frame rests on the clips, then is pushed down to clear the bottom clips, and held in place when it pops back up. This method would allow you to remove the seat back without tools. Hope the pictures help. Snyders has the instructions posted under the part number.
Thanks Tom!
BB
PS: CAPE A - did you still need a measurement on the lower seat wood?


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