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46WINE 10-14-2015 06:02 PM

46 ford with 302
 

I've got a 46 ford coupe with a ford 302 carbureted engine. My problem is non of the gauges are hooked up. It's a 12 volt system. What would be the proper way to hook up the gauges. I have the original 46 gauges and dash wireing in the car. Or is there some written information that I can get that can help me do the job. Would appreciate any help I could get. Thanks all.

waterboychuck 10-14-2015 06:15 PM

Re: 46 ford with 302
 

Try this.
http://dennis-carpenter.com/voltage-reducer/p/D-10800/

39topless 10-14-2015 06:18 PM

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You may have better luck posting your question on the H.A.M.B. site. Just an opinion, a 302 seems a bit under-powered for your 46'. Good Luck.

scooder 10-15-2015 01:52 AM

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If a 302 in a 46 Ford is under powered, then what is a 46 Ford with a stock flathead?

46 wine, you need to fit voltage reducers on the oil, fuel and temp gauges. Amp gauge is fine as it is. The problem I believe your gonna have is the sender units for the temperate and oil pressure have to be compatible, the stock flathead ones need to be installed in the 302 for them to read anywhere near accurate. If you can't do this, you'll need to gut the gauges and fit 302 compatible guts in the gauges. This would be the nice way to do it. Other option is to fit an after market gauge setup.
Martin.

koates 10-15-2015 03:23 AM

Re: 46 ford with 302
 

39 topless, stock 1946 ford flathead approx. 100 HP. Stock 302 ohv 220 HP plus. Go figure. Regards, Kevin.

JSeery 10-15-2015 07:12 AM

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Diagrams of the original type gauges. Modern senders are resistance devices, the original Ford type senders are a pulse type of device (they use points that open and close). The Ford gauges and senders have the same current flowing through them and the heat in the gauge coil matches the heat in the sender (this is just a quick simple explanation). On the temp senders only the single wire sender would be used (the dual wire is basically an on/off switch). Some have claimed success with using later resistance senders but I would try and adapt the original senders.

RalphG 10-15-2015 08:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by scooder (Post 1172694)
If a 302 in a 46 Ford is under powered, then what is a 46 Ford with a stock flathead?

Martin.

My thoughts exactly. I still remember the first ride in my aunt's brand new 302 powered 69 Ford Falcon. After riding in the 52 Merc as a kid , this Falcon 302 seemed like an absolute rocket with unlimited power and acceleration. (Yes we tried it out :-) Worlds apart from the old 255 flathead.

4t8v8 10-15-2015 08:59 AM

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Isn't horsepower great. It can be whatever you want it to be. A 302 in 1969 made 220 HP. In 1975 the same engine made 120 HP. Your tax dollars at work. A stock 239 flathead makes 100HP? Yeah, right.

19Fordy 10-15-2015 10:06 AM

Re: 46 ford with 302
 

The easiest way would be to install 12V under dash gauges compatible to the 302. This includes the fuel gauge and matching fuel sender unit in your gas tank. This is worth reading. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/t...-vr-88.936572/

39topless 10-15-2015 10:22 AM

Re: 46 ford with 302
 

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Originally Posted by koates (Post 1172708)
39 topless, stock 1946 ford flathead approx. 100 HP. Stock 302 ohv 220 HP plus. Go figure. Regards, Kevin.

I'm well aware that a 302 will produce more horse power than the stock 239. If you're going to go to the trouble of installing a "modern" engine in a big heavy 46', you may as well put in something stronger than a 302. Just my opinion.

clydemc 10-15-2015 07:59 PM

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46 had positive ground.6 v. if you good remove backs on old gauges mount new ones in there place speedo the same lot of work. Looks stock good luck

JSeery 10-15-2015 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by clydemc (Post 1173076)
46 had positive ground.6 v. if you good remove backs on old gauges mount new ones in there place speedo the same lot of work. Looks stock good luck

Don't think the polarity is an issue, but the voltage is. Voltage reducers are required.

Marvin/TN 10-15-2015 10:03 PM

Re: 46 ford with 302
 

Many years ago I put A GM engine in my 51 F-1. All I did was to switch the sending units to the GM engine and everything worked. No Voltage reducers and it was a 12 volt system. Drove the truck for about 15 years as a daily driver. I even used a GM heater blower resister to use the 6 volt heater. Picked out a coil with 7 volts reading with a VOM. The resister had to be in the air stream to keep it cool.

Marv 10-16-2015 04:57 AM

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I put a 302 in a 47 coupe and went with 12 volt. If i remember correctly there is one wire from the ignition switch that feeds all the gauges. I put a resister in the wire between the ignition switch and the gauges and everything worked fine and never had any trouble. No junk gauges under the dash.


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