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flatheadfan 04-28-2015 09:55 AM

Anyone tried this welding technique?
 

I came across this shade tree welding technique and it appears to be simple. But, then again a LOT of things look easy. If it is doable what type/size rod should you use?

Tom

http://speedsociety.com/welding-diy-...-of-batteries/

AnthonyG 04-28-2015 10:26 AM

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Certainly not a recommended metallugically sound or safe weld!

V12Bill 04-28-2015 10:36 AM

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I've heard of drag racers doing battery welding at the race track when something broke. It got them back on the track and/or home. Isn't that guy in the film risking his lung health by having his head in that welding smoke?

Fordestes 04-28-2015 10:44 AM

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looks like a good way to blow up some batteries and risk getting battery acid in your eyes and all over your shop. too dangerous for me!
batteries get hot and emit hydrogen gas, a small spark will ignite it and ouch!!!
fordestes

Inherited40tudor 04-28-2015 10:46 AM

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Amps is Amps.

tubman 04-28-2015 11:08 AM

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Hmmm. 24 OCV; sounds about right. This would probably work in a pinch and might get you home in an emergency. I agree with the safety concerns and wouldn't do this on a regular basis. Better make sure the rods are OK for DC welding. Since there is no control over the current doing this, finding the proper size rod would be mainly trial and error. Anybody wanna try and report back?

V8COOPMAN 04-28-2015 11:29 AM

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One could try-out this "emergency" welding technique along with trying-out this old emergency jack stand technique.......priceless! DD

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attach...4&d=1430237979

Kurt in NJ 04-28-2015 11:46 AM

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I have used a golf cart to weld many times
You hAve to be quick to get the rod unstuck and back to an arc-- dead short not good, something will melt-- then you have battery terminal problemr

G.M. 04-28-2015 11:55 AM

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This would work with small diameter electrodes but the 24 volts from 2 batteries would probly drop to low when trying to strike and arc. 3 batteries for larger electrodes may work. When I was in the welding supply someone had a holder for welding from batteries that was sold to farmers. Someone also made a small MIG gun to operate from batteries. Most of this type equipment never worked to good and dropped out of site. G.M.

Tony, NY 04-28-2015 12:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by V12Bill (Post 1076933)
Isn't that guy in the film risking his lung health by having his head in that welding smoke?

That's the way it was done before MIG.

fordy_nine 04-28-2015 12:24 PM

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He didn't say what kind or size rod he used. I would guess 3/32 or 1/8' dia. 7014 electrode (since he is using straight polarity ).....Bob L

G.M. 04-28-2015 04:18 PM

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They also made carbon arc torches that ran off the car battery. This was a piece of carbon with a wood handle and an alligator clip on a wire attached to the carbon. If I remember as this was over 60 years ago the carbon was maybe 10 inches long and tapered at the working end. The part to be soldered or braised was grounded and the carbon tip glowed red when grounded and heated the joint. G.M.

cmbrucew 04-28-2015 07:43 PM

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I had a short class in High School on carbon arc welding. I believe it was a Farney welding machine.
Bruce

G.M. 04-29-2015 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by cmbrucew (Post 1077250)
I had a short class in High School on carbon arc welding. I believe it was a Farney welding machine.
Bruce

Your right, I couldn't remember Forney. I should have remembered I made some wire feeders for them and knew Jack Forney pretty well. They also made the Forney Air Coupe. G.M.

SP_51-F1 04-29-2015 10:08 AM

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I know offroaders who do this to fix breaks on the trail.

34pickup 04-29-2015 03:48 PM

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Jeeze..... get a stinkin' welder. You can get a cheap one at a pawn shop.

Ross F-1 04-29-2015 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by fordy_nine (Post 1077006)
He didn't say what kind or size rod he used. I would guess 3/32 or 1/8' dia. 7014 electrode (since he is using straight polarity ).....Bob L

I think you are supposed to use a coat hanger?? :eek:

Karl Wescott 04-30-2015 09:13 AM

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If you dont like the idea of using a batteries, try this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forge_welding

fordy_nine 04-30-2015 10:01 AM

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I've used a coat hanger many times for TIG or gas welding - good stuff, priced right....Bob L

bobH 04-30-2015 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SP_51-F1 (Post 1077521)
I know offroaders who do this to fix breaks on the trail.

As said... this has been a common off-roaders repair technique for 'eons'. Can't say I've tried it myself, but I've watched it numerous times. I haven't seen any problems, no 'near-accidents', seemed to work ok.
two batteries, enough jumper cables, rod, helmet, and your in business.
No need to try this at home, but out in the boonies it's a good resource.


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