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Rojo 04-12-2015 01:34 PM

Never Seeze
 

Anyone ever used Never Seeze for a speedo cable lubricant? Does anyone have a reason it shouldn't be used for either the cable or to lube the cable input gears on the back of the speedometer? Other than never being able to get the stuff off your hands or anything else it touches...

oldbike99 04-12-2015 02:28 PM

Re: Never Seeze
 

It would be a poor choice, at it is not a lubricant designed for moving parts

H. L. Chauvin 04-12-2015 02:34 PM

Re: Never Seeze
 

Hi Rojo,

Agree with Mr. oldbike99.

Not trying to be funny ........... but I think you would "never seeze" the difference.

harleytoprock 04-12-2015 03:44 PM

Re: Never Seeze
 

It has very fine powdered metal in it. Does that sound like a good lube? Not!

Bruce Adams 04-12-2015 04:17 PM

Re: Never Seeze
 

Never Sieze is a powdered copper in a base.
WHY would you cosider it as a lube?

Powdered graphite is the lube of choce for a speedo cable.
A new speedo cable with housing is about $30.
A tin of graphite is probably $5 for a lifetime supply for you and all your friends' cars.

Chuck Sea/Tac 04-12-2015 04:34 PM

Re: Never Seeze
 

Perhaps you should google never seize? It's listed as a high heat, high pressure LUBRICANT.
I actually use it as such in the lower temp range.

SeaSlugs 04-12-2015 05:36 PM

Re: Never Seeze
 

i would not, that stuff is tacky and when it gets old it gets dried out and more glue like.

plain ol powdered graphite is the answer.
they used to make special spedometer cable lube... not sure if it can still be had or not.

H. L. Chauvin 04-12-2015 06:20 PM

Re: Never Seeze
 

Just one opinion & experience:

Have to agree also with the first sentence in reply #7.

After a while, the volatiles dry out, it becomes dry & gritty with the particles, & the worse part is, after it dries: You "never seeze" the lube.

noboD 04-12-2015 06:28 PM

Re: Never Seeze
 

I would be afraid of it getting into the speedo head. I use never seize for lots of lubrication applications, works great. I even use it on batter terminals and never get any corrosion, have done that for at least 40 years.

Tom Mazz/CT 04-12-2015 06:41 PM

Re: Never Seeze
 

Never Seize is used as a thread lubricant. It is commonly used in high temp applications such as jet engine assembly.

An excellent choice for exhaust manifold studs & nuts. I also like it on brake drum to axle surfaces, disc brake studs and lug nuts. As others have posted it dries out in the can over time.....we add a little engine oil to the can and stir when this happens.

d. 04-12-2015 06:56 PM

Re: Never Seeze/ try STP for good results
 

STP is the good choice...check the MARC archives for tech advisor Roger Kauffman advice. yeah, this works.

Rojo 04-12-2015 07:06 PM

Re: Never Seeze
 

Some great comments here! Wasn't trying to start an argument....just trying to learn something new, which I always do here! I used white lithium grease in my speedo cable gears and to lube the cable itself inside the sheath. I spotted my 12 year old can of Never Seeze on the shelf and just wondered.....

Mitch//pa 04-12-2015 07:07 PM

Re: Never Seeze
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rojo (Post 1067870)
Some great comments here! Wasn't trying to start an argument....just trying to learn something new, which I always do here! I used white lithium grease in my speedo cable gears and to lube the cable itself inside the sheath. I spotted my 12 year old can of Never Seeze on the shelf and just wondered.....

thats also the worst thing to use...white lithium dries out ..

i use synthetic brake caliper grease

Bruce Adams 04-12-2015 08:20 PM

Re: Never Seeze
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck Sea/Tac (Post 1067775)
Perhaps you should google never seize? It's listed as a high heat, high pressure LUBRICANT.
I actually use it as such in the lower temp range.

HERE IS THE GOOGLE FOR NEVER SEEZE by PERMATEX

"The "original" anti-seize compound and extreme pressure lubricant formulated with copper, graphite, aluminum and other ingredients to protect metal parts against rust, corrosion and seizure up to 1800°F. Fine metallic and graphite particles in special grease protect parts even in high heat, high pressure and corrosive environments. Ford ESE-M12A4-A, Garrett Engine Div. PCS5724, Pratt & Whitney PWA 360523-2 and tested to MIL-A-907"

(Not what I would call a good lube for a speedo cable-Bruce)

ian Simpson 04-12-2015 10:50 PM

Re: Never Seeze
 

I have always used the current wheel bearing grease of choice. Never lube the top twelve inches or so of the cable to keep grease out of the speedo head. There will be enough grease deposited on the inside of the outer as you slide the inner into place to lube the top end. I usually push the inner into place and then pull it out a little and wipe off excess grease.

Does that make sense to anyone but me?

Ian

Tom Wesenberg 04-13-2015 01:26 AM

Re: Never Seeze
 

I agree with Mitch and haven't used white lithium for the past 20 years, after I saw it had dried out on some of my parts. I used to use it mostly for engine assembly lube, but have switched to Mystik JT-6 High Temp red grease.

Rojo 04-13-2015 08:24 AM

Re: Never Seeze
 

Guess it's time to clean out all that white lithium grease and start over! That's what I really love about coming here for info and advice. I will say that we drove our '29 for over 20 years when I was growing up with it and never, ever to my memory lubed the speedo cable...it always worked perfectly...it didn't start acting up until years later when my dad had a "cosmetic" restoration done in Houston....guess they pulled the original cable and replaced it for some reason...then nothing but problems for the next few years until the car was pickled.


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