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19ED30 01-01-2015 04:01 PM

V8 flatly RPMs 100s or Thousands
 

Where RPMs read by 100s or Thousands on early Fords , if so what year did they go to thousands ?
@ gen in x100s ?
@ crank x1000s ?
How many RPMs 1000s Or 100s do you turn on your stock Flatty when you are going threw the gear's (8,500):eek: A Rod Kicker !!!

Walt Dupont--Me. 01-01-2015 04:31 PM

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I shift my dragster at 4500 and go through the 1/8 strip at 5500, It broke a drive shaft once and went to 7100, still holding together. Walt

Mart 01-01-2015 04:52 PM

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I used to shift at 45 hundred but after everything converted to thousands I switched to 4 and a half thousand and it goes much better.

Mart.

Ol' Ron 01-01-2015 04:56 PM

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If you're racing you shift just before the engine begins to flatten out, havee to stay on the hi side of the torque curve. Some trans have a very low 1st gear and when you hit second your already on the wrong side of the curve. You can only get the hang of it by looking at the timing sheets and blowing a few engines.

uncle max 01-01-2015 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ol' Ron (Post 1008124)
If you're racing you shift just before the engine begins to flatten out, havee to stay on the hi side of the torque curve. Some trans have a very low 1st gear and when you hit second your already on the wrong side of the curve. You can only get the hang of it by looking at the timing sheets and blowing a few engines.

Glad to see you still have that sense of humor in 2015! :D

19ED30 01-01-2015 09:18 PM

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[QUOTE=Mart;1008123]I used to shift at 45 hundred but after everything converted to thousands I switched to 4 and a half thousand and it goes much better.

Mart.

So on a old tach , 100's are the same as 1000's , Example 200 rpm is now 2000 rpm.

A stock (( 1950)) 239 is about 110 hp & 190 torq @ 2000 rpm's ,
Around what Rpm does the vale's start to float .
I am looking for a Vintage tach , but I don't know if need just a 4 hundred or 4 thousands tach reading ,or 5 , or 6 ,

I have plenty tach's that go up to 8,000 - 12,0000.

Ol' Ron 01-01-2015 09:29 PM

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You can't float the valves in a stock flathead, Plus a 239 flathead never made more than80 HP, don't believe the advertizing, read JWL's book

scooder 01-02-2015 10:35 AM

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Rpm is rpm, it means revolutions per minute.
2000rpm is, was and allways will be 2000 rpm.
The face of the tach normally has all the info you need. For instance, if it's numbered 10, 20, 30 and so on, it'll have rpm X 100 on the face. So it means 1000, 2000, 3000 rpm and so on.
Get it?
If the tach is electric it needs to be calibrated for the amount of cylinders the engine has or it'll give phony readings. This assumes a single coil type of ignition, This is usually done via a switch or terminal change on the back of the tach.
bung some pics of the front and back of the tach your looking at using, it may also need another box of tricks that it's wired too (a signal sender type of thing) depending on make, model and age.
Martin.

JSeery 01-02-2015 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mart (Post 1008123)
I used to shift at 45 hundred but after everything converted to thousands I switched to 4 and a half thousand and it goes much better.

Mart.

So on a old tach , 100's are the same as 1000's , Example 200 rpm is now 2000 rpm.

A stock (( 1950)) 239 is about 110 hp & 190 torq @ 2000 rpm's ,
Around what Rpm does the vale's start to float .
I am looking for a Vintage tach , but I don't know if need just a 4 hundred or 4 thousands tach reading ,or 5 , or 6 ,

I have plenty tach's that go up to 8,000 - 12,0000.

As far as I know there is no such thing as a 4 hundred tach (at least not automotive), the engines idle faster than that! The range you would need on a tach depends on the engine and what you intend to do with it. On a stock Ford dyno chart the engine hits max output around 3500 rpm (less in the real world) and the charts end around 4500 rpm.

19ED30 01-02-2015 03:13 PM

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As far as I know there is no such thing as a 4 hundred tach (at least not automotive), the engines idle faster than that! The range you would need on a tach depends on the engine and what you intend to do with it. On a stock Ford dyno chart the engine hits max output around 3500 rpm (less in the real world) and the charts end around 4500 rpm.

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19ED30 01-02-2015 03:15 PM

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Mart 01-02-2015 03:23 PM

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There is no old and new way of illustrating tach faces. The maker just has to show how many revs per minute the engine is turning. For example, in your pics the second one is numbered 0 to 30 and clearly labelled "hundreds" it is a 0 to 3000 rpm tach.

Some are numbered 0, 1, 2 etc and would be labelled "Thousands".

There is no set pattern or late and early type.

Mart.

19ED30 01-02-2015 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 19ED30 (Post 1008102)
Where RPMs read by 100s or Thousands on early Fords , if so what year did they go to thousands ?
@ gen in x100s ?
@ crank x1000s ?
How many RPMs 1000s Or 100s do you turn on your stock Flatty when you are going threw the gear's (8,500):eek: A Rod Kicker !!!


I do know what a tachometer is used for & aware of Revolution per Minuets,
Al most all gas engine idle @ least 6 to 7 hundred RPM ,
DESIEL Maybe 400 to 1,500 RPM ( big desiel )

I am thinking that the tach that are in 100s Where not used on gas engines , I will have to Change the gearing on the tach drive @ the crank or genarotor if I am unable tofind a Vintage 4000's tach Pre 50's . Electric or Mecanical.

19ED30 01-02-2015 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mart (Post 1008627)
There is no old and new way of illustrating tach faces. The maker just has to show how many revs per minute the engine is turning. For example, in your pics the second one is numbered 0 to 30 and clearly labelled "hundreds" it is a 0 to 3000 rpm tach.

Some are numbered 0, 1, 2 etc and would be labelled "Thousands".

There is no set pattern or late and early type.

Mart.

Duhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!
I'm a dum -SS ! I compleatly over looked at the reading's ...
I just focused on the Where it said HUNDREDS:(:(

scicala 01-02-2015 03:48 PM

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I'm going to completely disregard this thread. Hoping it's all a joke.

JSeery 01-02-2015 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 19ED30 (Post 1008637)
Duhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!
I'm a dum -SS ! I compleatly over looked at the reading's ...
I just focused on the Where it said HUNDREDS:(:(

Yep, that's a 3000 rpm tach (30 x 100 = 3000). But, not sure dum-SS is the best way to look at it! The second post is a 4000 rpm tach (40 x 100 etc) and would work for a lot of flatheads. I'm assuming if you already had this all figured out you wouldn't have posted the question in the first place. Often posting something like this and getting inputs sorts out the obvious.

19ED30 01-02-2015 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by scicala (Post 1008643)
I'm going to completely disregard this thread. Hoping it's all a joke.

No Joke !!! The first question was answered by Mart from the Original post ,
There where 3 question's ,, I over exsamaned & only focast on the Hundreds RPM marked on the faces of several tach's & did not look @ the number layout

Mart's quote

I used to shift at 45 hundred but after everything converted to thousands I switched to 4 and a half thousand and it goes much better.

CarlG 01-02-2015 04:29 PM

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6 on one hand and 1/2 dozen on the other.

Mart 01-02-2015 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 19ED30 (Post 1008656)
No Joke !!! The first question was answered by Mart from the Original post ,
There where 3 question's ,, I over exsamaned & only focast on the Hundreds RPM marked on the faces of several tach's & did not look @ the number layout

Mart's quote

I used to shift at 45 hundred but after everything converted to thousands I switched to 4 and a half thousand and it goes much better.

I do apologise I thought my attempt at humour would illustrate that the two types of readout give the same result.

All is good though, we got there in the end.

Mart.

AlDeBear 01-02-2015 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mart (Post 1008739)
I do apologise I thought my attempt at humour would illustrate that the two types of readout give the same result.

All is good though, we got there in the end.

Mart.

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That IS funny Mart! I like your sense of humor! Brightens the day! Larry


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