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FrankWest 11-15-2014 09:12 AM

coil to distributer harness
 

I am trying to find the coil to distributer cap harness.
Brattons sells a 12 inch long distributer cap wire but I am missing something. I need the wire that thate plugs into the harness must be 3 ft to 4 ft long to reach from the coil to the distributer

Kurt in NJ 11-15-2014 09:40 AM

Re: coil to distributer harness
 

Therer is a harness that goes from the coil/terminal block to the dash, there the coil wire connects to the ignition switch (popout) which has the wire inside the heavy metal cable that screws into the distributer

1931 flamingo 11-15-2014 10:01 AM

Re: coil to distributer harness
 

Frank you have a 33 model B, not much different than an A. There is a wire from the coil to the dist and probably not more than 12" long. Where does this 3-4' wire go to/from??
Have you checked it for continuity?
You had the car running (twice I believe) for over an hour, usually (if ever) a wire/harness does not just "give up".
Do you have gas at the carb, simple to check.
Do you have spark ?? You've been asked to ck this before.
How did you come to the conclusion that you need a 3-4" wire??
Paul in CT

tbirdtbird 11-15-2014 10:26 AM

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his coil must be in the trunk

Ford1931 11-15-2014 10:47 AM

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Is the 33 coil inside the firewall like the 32? If so you need a long wire. Just use a longer modern wire.

Tom Wesenberg 11-15-2014 11:07 AM

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If you need to buy cloth wire, this guy sells a lot of colors and gauges of cloth covered wire.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cloth-Covere...r#ht_95wt_1001

Bob C 11-15-2014 11:53 AM

Re: coil to distributer harness
 

I think you are looking for part B-14302. It looks like it is
the high tension wire from the coil to the distributor cap and
the primary wire from the distributor to the coil in one loom.

Bob

FrankWest 11-15-2014 12:47 PM

Re: coil to distributer harness
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1931 flamingo (Post 981280)
Frank you have a 33 model B, not much different than an A. There is a wire from the coil to the dist and probably not more than 12" long. Where does this 3-4' wire go to/from??
Have you checked it for continuity?
You had the car running (twice I believe) for over an hour, usually (if ever) a wire/harness does not just "give up".
Do you have gas at the carb, simple to check.
Do you have spark ?? You've been asked to ck this before.
How did you come to the conclusion that you need a 3-4" wire??
Paul in CT

I stated on the can't start car post
That I had no spark Now.
Checked all the connection and seem tight.
My ammeter is still quiet....
I suspect that my coil burned out

The 12 inch long distributer wire cannot fit from the coil to the distributer on this model B car,

FrankWest 11-15-2014 12:48 PM

Re: coil to distributer harness
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by tbirdtbird (Post 981298)
his coil must be in the trunk

Real smart...Wise guy! I have bot trunk and my coil is under the dash

tbirdtbird 11-15-2014 12:51 PM

Re: coil to distributer harness
 

sorry, i am very confused

FrankWest 11-15-2014 12:55 PM

Re: coil to distributer harness
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrankWest (Post 981253)
I am trying to find the coil to distributer cap harness.
Brattons sells a 12 inch long distributer cap wire but I am missing something. I need the wire that thate plugs into the harness must be 3 ft to 4 ft long to reach from the coil to the distributer

I have a 1933 model B car.
The wire out of the center of the coil is approx 1/4 tan woven cloth
this extends thru the firewall for approx 2 ft at that point there is junction that the distributer coil connects to. Also there is a small guage wire included in the tan material coated wire from the coil the attaches to the lower distributer body?
I was questioning this because there is electrical tap holding this juncture together 10 inches from the distributer. I question the integrity of the connection perhaps something can loose here.
I will first replace my ignition coil....I have another one.
I suspect the coil because of the deadness all of a sudden in my ammeter.
If the coil were active and not open or shorted there would have to be current surging thru if as the ignition switch is turned and starter, i believe.

Vin-tin 11-15-2014 01:09 PM

Re: coil to distributer harness
 

I'm not trying to be a smart ass, but I thought this was a 1928-1931 Model A ford forum.
Sorry, I cant help you other than to direct you to the proper forum.
They might be of more help on the 1932-1953 forum.
Good luck at figuring it out.

Tom Wesenberg 11-15-2014 02:03 PM

Re: coil to distributer harness
 

Dirty points could also leave the ammeter with no movement while cranking the engine. You need a test light to follow where the electricity drops off. Touch each side of the coil primary to see if the coil is passing current, then work your way down to the points, which should be grounded when they are closed.

1931 flamingo 11-15-2014 03:09 PM

Re: coil to distributer harness
 

Have you unwrapped the electrical tape that you mention in post #11???
Have you ck'd for voltage at the battery, ignition switch, coil, distributor????
Will the horn honk??
Will the lights turn on??
Brake lights??
Paul in CT

FrankWest 11-15-2014 04:32 PM

Re: coil to distributer harness
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1931 flamingo (Post 981479)
Have you unwrapped the electrical tape that you mention in post #11???
Have you ck'd for voltage at the battery, ignition switch, coil, distributor????
Will the horn honk??
Will the lights turn on??
Brake lights??
Paul in CT

The horn works and headlighs,,Brake lights not installed yet

FrankWest 11-15-2014 04:36 PM

Re: coil to distributer harness
 

I apolpgized for asking this qustion under Model A/
The model a has the ignation coil on the firewall engine compartment here only need 10 inches or so.
On my model B the ingnition coil is location under the dash inside the car.
And you need this harness
http://www.macsautoparts.com/ford_me...passenger.html

Having a 1933 car with basically a model A engine can be confusing at times...
But The 1933 model B engine was very reliable and almos as powerful as the early v8 which had many problem until approx 1935/36

FrankWest 11-15-2014 04:38 PM

Re: coil to distributer harness
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob C (Post 981357)
I think you are looking for part B-14302. It looks like it is
the high tension wire from the coil to the distributor cap and
the primary wire from the distributor to the coil in one loom.

Bob

THanks for your help.

FrankWest 11-15-2014 05:00 PM

Re: coil to distributer harness
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg (Post 981429)
Dirty points could also leave the ammeter with no movement while cranking the engine. You need a test light to follow where the electricity drops off. Touch each side of the coil primary to see if the coil is passing current, then work your way down to the points, which should be grounded when they are closed.

I took the cap off and
How do you remove the rotor to get below to see the points?

darrylkmc 11-15-2014 05:09 PM

Re: coil to distributer harness
 

FrankWest,

The rotor should bull straight up and come off, if it is original it could be bakelite and brittle, rocking them while taking them off can crack them.

Darryl in Fairbanks

Tom Wesenberg 11-15-2014 05:53 PM

Re: coil to distributer harness
 

Yep, even on the Model A I've seen some very stuck rotors. I would only pry up on the center part of the rotor. I haven't touched a B distributor in a long time, and I don't remember if a long thin screwdriver can be used to pry up on the bottom part of the center around the shaft.


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