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Tod 09-10-2014 12:44 PM

New Block update.
 

As I said before, I've been very busy and unable to work on the block lately, but I was able to clear some time to get back on it today. After a couple of hours, the real gating system is in place, so I will order cores, head back to the foundry to mold it up, and make a few samples.

I'd like to get something cast before Hershey, but paying work comes first. If I can do it, I will probably let Snyder bring it with him when he goes, if he is actually going.

Tod

JohnLaVoy 09-10-2014 02:09 PM

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Sounds good looking forward to seeing it finished!

mshmodela 09-10-2014 06:29 PM

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Great news Tod, cannot wait to see the new block

TinCup 09-10-2014 07:21 PM

Re: New Block update.
 

I think your new block is very exciting news for this hobby. To be able to start with a confirmed good block is such an improvement. To many people have put a lot of money into a block only to find a crack show up after babbit work or boring or decking. Good Luck with it and our group is certainly excited about this.

Tod 09-17-2014 09:43 PM

Re: New Block update.
 

Cores have been ordered and we will be trying to have something for Snyder to take to Hershey. It will be tight to do everything else and get this done as well. Hopefully the next couple of weeks will prove productive.

Tod

hardtimes 09-17-2014 11:43 PM

Re: New Block update.
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tod (Post 947646)
Cores have been ordered and we will be trying to have something for Snyder to take to Hershey. It will be tight to do everything else and get this done as well. Hopefully the next couple of weeks will prove productive.

Tod

Hey Tod,
For us here, who will not be able to get to Hershey, maybe you can make a quick post of pictures...or maybe send pics to those who have given you emails as requested ? This is good news , nonetheless :)

Tod 09-26-2014 03:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hardtimes (Post 947685)
Hey Tod,
For us here, who will not be able to get to Hershey, maybe you can make a quick post of pictures...or maybe send pics to those who have given you emails as requested ? This is good news , nonetheless :)

I will certainly keep people posted.

As of now, I am scrambling to get one for Snyder to take with him to Hershey. I have 4 sets of cores made and the pattern is ready to go to the foundry. We can assemble a mold and have one poured and shaken out in a day. It should be doable. I'm working on a bunch of other stuff at the same time so that is why things are moving so slowly.

Tod

Tod 09-29-2014 03:09 PM

Re: New Block update.
 

Hoping for 2 castings by the end of the week.

Tod

Fullraceflathead 09-29-2014 03:41 PM

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That sounds Very Good!

Franchise_24 09-29-2014 04:12 PM

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I find it amusing that people are out there voting this thread down to 1 star. I'm sure there are a select few out their jealous about this project so they show malice by being as petty as voting down Tod's thread. Those types of people aren't in it for the hobby, they are in it for the money. Great work on all you're doing Tod, keep it up.

hardtimes 09-29-2014 06:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tod (Post 953782)
Hoping for 2 castings by the end of the week.

Tod

Thanks for the update, as that news is exciting. Would love to watch that casting process ! Perhaps someone, with tech skills, could/would put a video of that on here to get things (adrenalin wise :) ) moving !

Model A Man 09-29-2014 07:28 PM

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I am so looking forward to when the blocks/motors will be in full production. To me this is huge, I have yet to have a model A motor rebuilt for fear of spending a ton of money only to have the rebuilt motor last a short time as I have read many times here on the barn. To have a new block with new not rebuilt inners just gets me excited. Thanks Tod for all you are doing.

Tod 09-29-2014 09:43 PM

Re: New Block update.
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by hardtimes (Post 953911)
Thanks for the update, as that news is exciting. Would love to watch that casting process ! Perhaps someone, with tech skills, could/would put a video of that on here to get things (adrenalin wise :) ) moving !

I will only video so much. I always keep certain info to myself.

Tod

tbirdtbird 09-29-2014 10:03 PM

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as it should be....

hardtimes 09-30-2014 01:57 AM

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Hey Tod,
THANKS, I can understand your response. Just picture 'brimstone and fire' pouring out in hell like situation....and then is born something good....your new baby 5 X 5 banger :eek:! Do it ! We don't care to see the secret stuff.

wrndln 09-30-2014 09:58 AM

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I haven't closely followed the new block Tod is making. Does the new block have 5 main bearings and does it have inserted mains in it? Sorry I haven't kept up on the specs of the new block. I wonder what the cost will be for it.
Rusty Nelson

CarlG 09-30-2014 10:15 AM

Re: New Block update.
 

I've also wondered about what other parts/pieces to use in building this "new" engine?

hardtimes 10-01-2014 12:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CarlG (Post 954287)
I've also wondered about what other parts/pieces to use in building this "new" engine?

The way I got it, is that due to poll results, Tod will do the stock type block first (most sales hopefully), then he will or maybe already has prepped for a stock looking block, but with five cam bearings and five crank main bearings...of the B/C size crank. Stock stuff will work with stock block, but of course 5x5 will require improved / new equipment. Look at the poll, if it is still available and that will give you info on what numbers dictate what to build that will sell. If I remember correctly, the stock looking block with B internals was big hit.

Tod 10-01-2014 06:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hardtimes (Post 954714)
The way I got it, is that due to poll results, Tod will do the stock type block first (most sales hopefully), then he will or maybe already has prepped for a stock looking block, but with five cam bearings and five crank main bearings...of the B/C size crank. Stock stuff will work with stock block, but of course 5x5 will require improved / new equipment. Look at the poll, if it is still available and that will give you info on what numbers dictate what to build that will sell. If I remember correctly, the stock looking block with B internals was big hit.

The two we will be casting today, or tomorrow, are Model A with B internal sizing. They are to be machined and built as A's. I have one more addition to make so that the tooling will work for A's and B's. When one or the other is ordered a simple core change will account for an A or B rear tail/seal area.

I have 4 sets of cores but time is short to Hershey so I am only casting 2.

I'm also hoping that 4 stock style A guys will be willing to buy these first 4.


Tod

Tod 10-02-2014 04:24 PM

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Well, we started later than I expected but 2 blocks were poured today. The foundry wound up having to re-line the furnace we used so that took a few hours out of the day. Tomorrow morning (Friday) we will see how they turned out. The new gating system seemed to flow as I expected and the core assembly went well. We did change the metallurgy some so I'm hoping that causes no problems.

Stay tuned.

Tod


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