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norway 07-06-2014 03:59 AM

what model b head gasket for model a block with 1,25 piston?
 

my model a engine has 1,25 piston in it, (it is being overhauled now).
but i will use synders 5.5:1 head, when the engine is done.
and i need ford model b head gasket that allow 1,25 piston. what can i use in model b gasket?


if i cant find model b gasket that allow 1,25 piston, then i can use my Stock model a head, with felpro 7013C gasket?

This engine belongs to my ford model a 1929 pickup closed cab.
thanks for all help.

colin1928 07-06-2014 04:08 AM

Re: what model b head gasket for model a block with 1,25 piston?
 

Felpro 7013 R3 is for bores up to 4.0625

norway 07-06-2014 04:36 AM

Re: what model b head gasket for model a block with 1,25 piston?
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by colin1928 (Post 905557)
Felpro 7013 R3 is for bores up to 4.0625

Felpro 7013 R3 head gasket will work With synders model b head?

colin1928 07-06-2014 05:34 AM

Re: what model b head gasket for model a block with 1,25 piston?
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by norway (Post 905560)
Felpro 7013 R3 head gasket will work With synders model b head?

Yes

James Rogers 07-06-2014 06:16 AM

Re: what model b head gasket for model a block with 1,25 piston?
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by norway (Post 905560)
Felpro 7013 R3 head gasket will work With synders model b head?

Snyder's 5.5 head is not a B style head. You need to use a Model A gasket on a Model A motor, no matter what head you use. Use a Fel-Pro 7013 R3 or 4.

norway 07-06-2014 07:09 AM

Re: what model b head gasket for model a block with 1,25 piston?
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Rogers (Post 905591)
Snyder's 5.5 head is not a B style head. You need to use a Model A gasket on a Model A motor, no matter what head you use. Use a Fel-Pro 7013 R3 or 4.


it says on the link that you have to use b ford gasket?
http://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/1069
You must use the 1932-34 "B" style head gasket with this cylinder head.

Mitch//pa 07-06-2014 08:45 AM

Re: what model b head gasket for model a block with 1,25 piston?
 

here is a link on the subject
good luck
http://fordbarn.com/forum/showthread...hlight=7013+r3

Jim Brierley 07-06-2014 10:18 AM

Re: what model b head gasket for model a block with 1,25 piston?
 

be sure whatever gasket you use fits the head without over-hanging. original b gaskets were narrower around the center studs and would not properly fit the a engines. this could cause hot-spots and detonation.

TDO 07-06-2014 11:48 AM

Re: what model b head gasket for model a block with 1,25 piston?
 

If you look at brattons 5.5 head on there catalog web site It just says to torque to 65lb . It doesn't say anything about what head gasket to use. I'm' just going by what they say on there web site.

James Rogers 07-06-2014 03:05 PM

Re: what model b head gasket for model a block with 1,25 piston?
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by norway (Post 905612)
it says on the link that you have to use b ford gasket?
http://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/1069
You must use the 1932-34 "B" style head gasket with this cylinder head.

That is incorrect. I have installed probably 40 or 50 of these and always use a Model A gasket. Never had a problem.
Besides, there is only 2 steam holes difference in a Model A and a Model B gasket anyway. This recommendation is just to sell that krappy, expensive composite gasket. Use the copper clad Model A gasket and spray it with copper coat spray.

norway 07-12-2014 04:30 AM

Re: what model b head gasket for model a block with 1,25 piston?
 

I bought fel-pro head gasket 7013C r3.
thanks for all your help.

Charlie Stephens 07-12-2014 01:20 PM

Re: what model b head gasket for model a block with 1,25 piston?
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Rogers (Post 905837)
That is incorrect. I have installed probably 40 or 50 of these and always use a Model A gasket. Never had a problem.
Besides, there is only 2 steam holes difference in a Model A and a Model B gasket anyway. This recommendation is just to sell that krappy, expensive composite gasket. Use the copper clad Model A gasket and spray it with copper coat spray.

James,

I hate to disagree with you but also the Model B gasket conforms to the Model B combustion chamber and the Model A gasket conforms to the Model A combustion chamber. The difference is slight but in one case you have gasket hanging out into the combustion area and the other you have a space that is likely to collect carbon. The bottom line, how much does difference does it make, I don't know.

Charlie Stephens

hardtimes 07-12-2014 02:01 PM

Re: what model b head gasket for model a block with 1,25 piston?
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie Stephens (Post 909125)
James,

I hate to disagree with you but also the Model B gasket conforms to the Model B combustion chamber and the Model A gasket conforms to the Model A combustion chamber. The difference is slight but in one case you have gasket hanging out into the combustion area and the other you have a space that is likely to collect carbon. The bottom line, how much does difference does it make, I don't know.

Charlie Stephens

Hey Charlie,
'difference does it make'....re-read Jim B entry but subtle comments / warnings of diff it makes :) !

Purdy Swoft 07-12-2014 02:40 PM

Re: what model b head gasket for model a block with 1,25 piston?
 

I agree with Jim brierley in post # 8 . The Snyders heads do use the heart shaped model B style combustion chamber . Snyders sells both model A and B style head gaskets in the silicone coated style. This is not a ploy to sell the modern style gasket as the modern style gasket is offered in both A and B combustion chamber styles . The Felpro 7013 C r3 is a large bore style gasket that can be used with both A and some other B style combustion chamber heads. I use the 7013 C r3 gasket with my BF heads because it was the recommended gasket. Snyder recommends the B style gesket with their heads. All heads with B STYLE combustion chambers are not exactly the same but can vary slightly.There are other B gaskets that can be used with the Snyder heads besides the silicone version.

Charlie Stephens 07-12-2014 07:52 PM

Re: what model b head gasket for model a block with 1,25 piston?
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by hardtimes (Post 909146)
Hey Charlie,
'difference does it make'....re-read Jim B entry but subtle comments / warnings of diff it makes :) !

I agree with Jim but several others, that I respect, have expressed different opinions. Even the Green Bible lists the B gasket as a replacement '28-'31.

Charlie Stephens

Purdy Swoft 07-12-2014 09:27 PM

Re: what model b head gasket for model a block with 1,25 piston?
 

The model B gasket can be used with the model A head and doesn't overhang into the combustion chamber, not so when the model A gasket is used with the model B head. It all depends on the shape of the combustion chamber . What the green bible says is true but doesn't necessarily apply to aftermarket heads that may have a slightly different shape. Most of the higher compression heads that are now offered use the heart shaped combustion chamber but are not exact in dimension.


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