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Flathead 05-07-2014 11:55 PM

Oil Viscosity question
 

My engine is tired. How thick can I go on the oil (warm weather operation) and still have it flow down the tubes to lube the main bearings etc. The engine is not full of sludge, I have had the oil pan and side cover off already. I would like to get a little more use out of it while I finish rebuilding another to replace it. Interested in other people's experiences. Thanks.

redmodelt 05-08-2014 12:14 AM

Re: Oil Viscosity question
 

I am running 10-40 in my Model T. The inside oil line is about 1/4 ID. the oils a bit stiff when cold but get to the front.

RonC 05-08-2014 05:19 AM

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20-50w will work

Mike V. Florida 05-08-2014 07:31 AM

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50W will work

Christoph 05-08-2014 07:34 AM

Re: Oil Viscosity question
 

I used non-detergent 50 in my old and worn-out-engine for summer operation
No filter; New oil every 800miles.

As requested, I do use 10 W40 with my actual engine all around the year
With filter and one change each year (about every 6000 miles)

Have fun
"Tired" does not mean it is going to fail soon....
Dont push and it will go lots of additional miles.

Christoph 05-08-2014 07:37 AM

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Im pretty sure you will struggle to change the engine than,
as the old one still will be going.

ursus 05-08-2014 04:50 PM

Re: Oil Viscosity question
 

My old Plymouth had a worn out flathead-6 that needed a quart of 40- weight every 60 miles. For summer use, I found an aircraft 60-weight oil and was able to go 100 miles on a quart.

billwill 05-08-2014 05:01 PM

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I woulduse 30 wt oil nolighter no ,good luck

Allanw 05-08-2014 10:15 PM

Re: Oil Viscosity question
 

If you go too high, you'll loose any cold start protection.

Get the lowest first number you can, with the second number just high enough to lower the oil consumption. 15W-40 or 20W-50 if it burns a lot (I don't think 50 comes with a lower W rating, unfortunetly)

Going really thick will wear it faster, as there won't be enough flow. Any high viscosity straight weights won't have much flow when cold.

eagle 05-09-2014 08:15 AM

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If you really want to go extreme, use 0W-50 synthetic. Polaris sells it for atv use...

Purdy Swoft 05-09-2014 11:09 AM

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I use Walmart brand 20w50. It works good for me in all of my model A engines. Zinc sure doesn't hurt but isn't necessary in engines with a forged camshaft. Model A's have a forged cam.

1931 flamingo 05-09-2014 06:37 PM

Re: Oil Viscosity question
 

And low valve spring pressure.
Paul in CT

Mr_Coupe 05-09-2014 06:42 PM

Re: Oil Viscosity question
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by eagle (Post 873483)
If you really want to go extreme, use 0W-50 synthetic. Polaris sells it for atv use...

I have always heard with the older engines you shouldn't use synthetic because it will blow threw the seals easier then standard oil. Tell me if I am wrong.

joe 1950 05-09-2014 07:34 PM

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I use a straight 40 wt detergent oil, along with a qt of lucas engine oil supp. have used this for 12 yrs. have taken oil samples in for testing and all the copper and aluim. content has dropped @30 percent or more from the first couple of years that I didn't use it ,I only drive the 50 ford from april to oct. I put on @ 1500 miles a year, best combo I ever used

Flathead 05-09-2014 11:06 PM

Re: Oil Viscosity question
 

Thanks for all the great replies. I think I will try some 20w50, I have had success with it in worn but pressure lubricated engines. I was curious about the A engine since the oil is not forced to the bearings by the pump but relies on gravity for the mains.

prpmmp 05-10-2014 08:10 AM

Re: Oil Viscosity question
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Coupe (Post 873883)
I have always heard with the older engines you shouldn't use synthetic because it will blow threw the seals easier then standard oil. Tell me if I am wrong.

Do not agree!! Synthetic and regular oil are the same when new,the only difference is synthetic oil will never break down. The additives in both oils will break down but the base in which the oils are made of are different. As far as weight or grade all oil at 212 degrees flow the same. I use 5-30 Castrol syntec in my 8BA. No leaks!! Some seepage at rear of pan but no oil drops!! Good Reading!! Pete
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/motor-oil-101/

MrTube 05-10-2014 07:36 PM

Re: Oil Viscosity question
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Coupe (Post 873883)
I have always heard with the older engines you shouldn't use synthetic because it will blow threw the seals easier then standard oil. Tell me if I am wrong.

Don't agree.

synthetic oil of any weight is the same viscosity as conventional oil, it would have no reason to 'blow threw seals".

Just as 0W40 is the same viscosity hot as 10w40, it simply doesn't get as thick as it cools which is beneficial to any engine out there.

Greg Jones 05-10-2014 08:29 PM

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Last thing I would worry about is the oil "blowing through the seals." There aren't any-at least as we know them in modern engines.


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