Are all 1930-31 pickups this way?
 

I need a few questions answered from someone that restored a mid 1930-31 closed cab pickup.
First off, I'd like to say that this truck cab was completely taken apart by one of it's previous owners. So figuring out how exactly everything goes has been a challenge for me.

(Middle picture) Is this gap normal, where the sub-rail, rear cross channel, and b-pillar meet?
All rivet holes line up, so I'm thinking it's normal.

Also, I got this repo cab corner patch along with my truck when I bought it.
The flange on the front is too narrow. The body-line is "open" on the end, and the radius of the whole patch seems bigger than it should be.
Plus, to make matters worse, the previous owner got carried away and cut too much metal out for the patch to cover.
Is there a more accurate cab corner patch available from someone?
It also would be nice to find one taller than 6" so I don't have to weld in a small filler strip.
Sorry for the poor picture quality.

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This thread should answer some of your questions.
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=126736

Bob

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the radius of the repro are too wide i used as little of the top as i could in order to just repair the rust out in the corners also as for the tunnel it is supposed to be filled bt a section of the subrail , the repro did not have that so i had to create an added part that allowed a spot weld on the cab corner bottom and a place for the rivet to go through to attach the rear door pillar and subrail to be structural and the end piece that covers that tunnel. Flop just finished his truck project so it will be interesting to hear about that section from him as his repro rear subrail did not need the fix as i had to do it . i had done my work just before the repro mfg changed up what they were doing , i talked to walt at brattons about the problem but the change was still working its way through production and i was already done putting the back together

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Thanks Bob...but not really. Flop does fantastic work and I follow all of his threads. Especially this one. But there's no close-up shots of the detail I need. Plus he makes all his patches from scratch.

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I'm not talking about the radius of the rear cross-member being too big. It's the cab corner patch that has too big of a radius. I made my own rear cross-member from scratch and is an exact copy of the original.

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i did mean the cab corners are too big of a radius see below for a solution may not be correct but solves the problem

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welded cap for the cab corner closes the gap

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Thanks rollingsculpture.
The "gap" has nothing to do with closing off the end like you show in your picture. However, your picture does show the gap i'm referring to. So they all must be that way. It just looked odd to me and thought i'd ask.

Did you do any other mods to the patch other than closing off the end?

Did it fit pretty good out of the box?

How high is it?

Who'd you get it from?

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no gap in my opinion . i dont think that would be there from the factory .


http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps3dbb3943.jpg

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so flop how does that gap happen what blocks it on yours but ours were open? did you make your own corners ? if so that explains it as you can see the repro corners have that end section open for some reason.

Vin. i only used as much as needed of the cab corner patch since i realized if i cut too high up in the original taper of the corners would be off , i bought the corners from brattons im not sure who makes it though .

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Ok guys. This has me puzzled, but I think I figured it out.

I used all of my original parts as patterns and scratch-built everything that makes up the "foundation" of my truck. I made both the front and rear cross channels and the triangular corner brackets. They were exact copies right down to the rivet hole placement. Only the sub-rails are the originals to my truck.
I was starting to think that I might have done something wrong.

Below are pictures of flop's truck and the lower cab support he removed for repairs to the bottom.
I'm thinking that "maybe" things got shifted a bit when it went back together. It would have been very easy at that stage to close that gap if he felt as though it shouldn't be there.
However, my lower cab support was never removed and still has the spot welds that Henry put in. I'm guessing that yours does too rollingsculpture.

The only other explanation I can think of is that maybe mine and rollingsculpture's truck was built on a Monday or Friday, and Flop's was built sometime in between. :D

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I know there's more 1930-31 ccpu's on here. I'm still curious if others share this same gap as mine and rollingsculptures truck.
The picture shows exactly the area in question.
Anyone?

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I looked at two I have and they both have about a 1/4" gap there.

Bob

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all correct Vin i just put the cap on because i thought it was better closed than open and as far as i can tell flop made his own.

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apparently i over restore things ! hahaha

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Ha. That's funny Flop.
Nah. You just made it like Henry should have made it.

Thanks for every ones input on this. I appreciate it.