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31 RPU 01-20-2014 04:23 PM

Rear main
 

Where could I find a rear main that is .020 or .030 oversize?
Who sells them?
Thanks

Tom Wesenberg 01-21-2014 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by 31 RPU (Post 807741)
Where could I find a rear main that is .020 or .030 oversize?
Who sells them?
Thanks

Oversized, or undersized?
If the Model A crankshaft has been turned .020", then you need undersized babbit in the caps. It would be thicker by .020", but the actual diameter is undersized.

BRENT in 10-uh-C 01-21-2014 07:24 AM

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Tom, wouldn't the Babbitt need to be oversized to make up the difference with the crankshaft journal being undersized? :confused: :confused: :confused: :o

George Miller 01-21-2014 08:17 AM

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Tom is right it is called a undersize bearing. If it was a insert you would ask for a .020 under size bearing.

31 RPU 01-21-2014 11:27 AM

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Yeah that's what I meant. I was referring to the crankshaft. Sorry about that. Rough weekend I suppose.

31 RPU 01-21-2014 11:30 AM

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But , then again it's how you look at it. It would be an oversized bearing cap and an undersized crank journal...?

I think I found one at Ron's machine shop

MikeK 01-21-2014 12:15 PM

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A clear case of inverse postulatum. If a hole represents an area of nothing and you make it bigger, do you have less?

Kohnke Rebabbitting 01-21-2014 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 31 RPU (Post 808314)
But , then again it's how you look at it. It would be an oversized bearing cap and an undersized crank journal...?

I think I found one at Ron's machine shop


No, it would be an under size crank, and an under size bearing.

So, if the crank is .020 under size, and the bearing is .020 over size, then the oil, or shaft clearance would be .040 thousandths.

George Miller 01-21-2014 03:19 PM

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Calling a .020 under size bearing over size is like calling a brake shoe a brake pad. It just is not right. We have been calling them under size bearings all my life.

J Franklin 01-21-2014 03:39 PM

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Time to re-babbit

40 Deluxe 01-22-2014 01:58 AM

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"Undersized" is the correct term. Here's why: Say a crankshaft journal is factory machined at 2" diameter. That would make the inside diameter of the bearing 2.001" or 2.002", for oil clearance. After many miles, the crankshaft journal wears out-of-round. To avoid needing a new crank, the old one gets it's journals ground down to make the journal round again. Say it required grinding off .010" of metal to make it round. Now measure the journal and you will find a diameter of 1.980", which is less than the original 2", thus the shaft is now 'undersized". And, of course, the inside diameter of the bearing must also be reduced, to 1.981' or 1.982" for proper oil clearance. Thus it, too, is "undersized".

SLPreston53 01-22-2014 12:18 PM

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31 RPU asked about where to get a rear main! Here is my answer: J Franklin (#10) is right. While I know in the old days Ford did sell main caps off the shelf, with the technology we have, I think it would be pretty hard, or at least a big production to pour and then cut just a main cap. One solution might be to check whatever non-running engines you might have access to and see if there is a rear main in one of them that is useable and the right size as a patch until you can get the engine re-babbited.

Joe K 01-22-2014 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeK (Post 808340)
A clear case of inverse postulatum. If a hole represents an area of nothing and you make it bigger, do you have less?

Sound like something Stephen Wright would say!

http://www.weather.net/zarg/ZarPages/stevenWright.html

Joe K

Pete 01-22-2014 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe K (Post 809154)
Sound like something Stephen Wright would say!

http://www.weather.net/zarg/ZarPages/stevenWright.html

Joe K

OK, so what's the speed of dark?

Kohnke Rebabbitting 01-22-2014 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete (Post 809174)
OK, so what's the speed of dark?



It must just be a little faster then light to keep from getting run over!

glenn in camino 01-22-2014 08:51 PM

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I collect good ones at swap meets. You never know when you might need one.


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