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mountain mike 10-02-2013 06:42 PM

T Bird won't start
 

Took my '55 T-Bird out for a drive last Saturday and before I could get out of the neighborhood it cut out on me and wouldn't start back up. The carb is getting gas, it seems to be getting a spark. It will turn over, fire a cylinder, but won't continue to fire. Also not sure if it is related but I also get some blue smoke out the tail pipe when cranking it. I have cleaned the points, recently replaced the condenser (about 50 miles and 3 months ago), and changed out the coil.
Anyone have any suggestions on what to check next?

rick55 10-02-2013 07:45 PM

Re: T Bird won't start
 

Pull the top off the distributor and check your plug gap. May have broken the bakelite rubbing block on the points. Too close a gap will give these symptoms, but you need to make sure you have spark.

paul2748 10-02-2013 08:09 PM

Re: T Bird won't start
 

There has been a rash of bad condensers in my area, especially new ones. Try a new condenser - you may hit on a good one (darn chinese junk)

Y-Blockhead 10-02-2013 08:28 PM

Re: T Bird won't start
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by rick55 (Post 737188)
Pull the top off the distributor and check your plug gap.

I think Rick means point gap... :eek:

mountain mike 10-03-2013 08:28 AM

Re: T Bird won't start
 

Checked and the rubber block on the points is good. Do you know how much gap the point is suppose to have? I can see it opening and closing and making a spark, but I have not checked how much gap there actually is.
We pulled off a spark plug and verified that we do have a spark. Also checked the compression and pulled the distributor to make sure the spline was in good condition.

40cpe 10-03-2013 09:35 AM

Re: T Bird won't start
 

If it is firing at the plugs and you have gas, I would check to be sure the timing hasn't jumped. Check #1 at TDC with the distributor.

mountain mike 10-03-2013 09:44 AM

Re: T Bird won't start
 

^^ I was also thinking it may be the timing. I found the specs for the point and I am going to check that later this afternoon and then if that doesn't work on to the timing.

mountain mike 10-03-2013 10:04 AM

Re: T Bird won't start
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by paul2748 (Post 737207)
There has been a rash of bad condensers in my area, especially new ones. Try a new condenser - you may hit on a good one (darn chinese junk)

I think I'll try to pick up a new condenser as well. Easy and cheap, worth a try.

Motorhead6 10-03-2013 03:14 PM

Re: T Bird won't start
 

You have spark at the plug, so it's probably not the condenser. Is it still 6 volt? The fact that you get a fire and then no more sort of leads me to think the ignition switch may be bad. Put a jumper on the hot side of the coil. (if it is still 6v- negative battery to negative on coil, if 12v- pos battery to pos on coil) If it runs, it is the ignition switch or if you have changed to 12 volt and have a resister, that resister or the ignition switch may be bad; one or the other.

SSsssteamer 10-03-2013 08:49 PM

Re: T Bird won't start
 

It also sounds like a bad ignition resistor to me. Symptoms of that is that it will crank over with a good spark and will be firing, but then the engine will not fire after the key is returned to the on position from start position. A weak ignition coil will also fail to spark under compression but will spark freely at atmospheric pressure. The color of the spark is important too. Plugs should be sparking a bright blue spark. A weak yellow spark will not run the engine properly.

40cpe 10-04-2013 08:51 AM

Re: T Bird won't start
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by mountain mike (Post 737528)
I think I'll try to pick up a new condenser as well. Easy and cheap, worth a try.

Please let us know what fixes it.

Ole Don 10-04-2013 08:55 AM

Re: T Bird won't start
 

I have been caught out with no spark. I unscrewed the hot wire from ignition at the resister, and put it under the screw on the other side just to get home. It worked good for one afternoon. The point gap should be set at .016 with no bumps on the points. I like to file them, then clean them by pulling clean newspaper through them to get the crud wiped off. A very small dab of grease on the cam will give life to the rubbing block.

mountain mike 10-04-2013 09:52 AM

Re: T Bird won't start
 

Car is still a 6V. Everything about the car is factory, with the exception of a coolant overflow tank.
Tried re-gapping the point and still nothing.
I believe I have an extra ignition switch laying around. I'll try that and check back in with an update.

mountain mike 10-04-2013 10:48 AM

Re: T Bird won't start
 

Replaced the ignition switch and it started!! However it is running very rough. I think I probably messed up the timing when I pulled the distributor. So on to the timing.

thank you everyone for your help!!


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