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banjoQ 09-03-2013 07:58 PM

8BA sparkplug verification
 

I spent some time and went through a forum search. Could not find any info specific to the 8BA. I have a 50' 8BA that has Autolite AL-7s' installed in it. These have been it the motor since the fifties. Currently these are burning a bit black, but they were like that from the day I dragged it out of the shed. Getting caught up on things to do to the truck and now it's time to treat the ol' boy to fresh plugs. Would not be surprised if these are not the correct plug. Autolite no longer uses the AL-7 descriptor. Will Autolite 216s' or Champion D21s' do the job for the 8BA? This seems to be the choice for earlier flatheads.

19Fordy 09-03-2013 08:21 PM

Re: 8BA sparkplug verification
 

This will help if your engine is completely stock. However, you will have to cross reference the Champion H 10 spark plug. You will get plenty of answers that vary. Keep in mind all the engines may not be as stock as yours and may have aluminum heads which may require a longer 'reach" sparkplug, etc.
http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/f...53_239-255.htm

NGK BL 6 is a good start according to this.
http://www.sparkplugcrossreference.c...0-h10-h10.html

Plus, Here's a site you should "save".
http://www.btc-bci.com/~billben/flathead.htm

oldford2 09-03-2013 08:22 PM

Re: 8BA sparkplug verification
 

Oh Boy,

This is like asking if you like blondes, brunettes, or redheads. I like Champion H-12's @ .030 gap
John


flatjack9 09-03-2013 10:02 PM

Re: 8BA sparkplug verification
 

Ngk b6l.

Ross F-1 09-03-2013 10:26 PM

Re: 8BA sparkplug verification
 

Just put in a set of Autolite 216's. They work great.

Vic Piano 09-04-2013 06:13 AM

Re: 8BA sparkplug verification
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldford2 (Post 719345)
Oh Boy,

This is like asking if you like blondes, brunettes, or redheads. I like Champion H-12's @ .030 gap
John


John,

I like blondes, brunettes & redheads :D ;) but I wouldn't put Champion spark plugs in a lawnmower... :eek: Autolite 216's and Autolite 437's (for aluminum after-market heads) are what I run.

banjoQ 09-04-2013 11:00 AM

Re: 8BA sparkplug verification
 

Thanks guys, for the information. Really found the link "Fordy" gave interesting. Addresses many of the most often asked questions. That's a keeper. The Champion H-10s' and H-12s' are hotter plugs, correct? Is there an advantage to this. My 8BA is in a truck and gets driven frequently. Short hops of ten to twenty mi. are about right for where I live. Maybe a hotter plug is what I need, weather it is a Autolite, Champion, or NGK. Then again, maybe Autolite 216s' are all I need. Beginning to think sparkplugs are like banjo strings. Every picker has his favorites and reasons for it. Nickel or bronze wound, medium or heavy gauge.I know I can't be talked off my brand. Thanks again-Q

19Fordy 09-04-2013 11:20 AM

Re: 8BA sparkplug verification
 

The good thing about NGK is that that have "rolled threads." The general feeling bandied about these days is that Champions are not the same high quality they were "back in the day." Be sure and put a "dab" of anti-seize compound on spark plug threads and never install or remove them when engine is HOT. Also, don't over tighten and use a spark plug socket.
More info:
http://fordbarn.com/forum/showthread...rk+plug+torque

Vic Piano 09-04-2013 11:30 AM

Re: 8BA sparkplug verification
 

Spark plugs are cheap enough for you to perform some test of your own. Install a set and use the truck in your normal driving for say two months (or sooner) pull the plugs and see how they look. Install another set of a different brand and do the same thing... When finished, you'll be able to compare the plugs to see how they held up. You should also monitor the gas consumption variance (if any) between the different plugs. Wow... now I'm sounding too technical for my own good..:eek:. I usually just fly by the seat of my pants when it comes to Flatheads...;) By the way, I’m a big Lester Flatt & Earl Scruggs fan…:):cool:

JT FORD 09-04-2013 11:44 AM

Re: 8BA sparkplug verification
 

AL 216 work the best for my 8BA's

Ross F-1 09-04-2013 12:21 PM

Re: 8BA sparkplug verification
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by 19Fordy (Post 719642)
[COLOR="DeepSkyBlue"]The good thing about NGK is that that have "rolled threads." The general feeling bandied about these days is that Champions are not the same high quality they were "back in the day." ..

I don't know of any spark plugs (or bolts, screws, etc) that don't have rolled threads. Champion, Bosch, Autolite, all claim rolled threads on their websites. The real bottom line is rolled threads are cheaper! A machine can roll probably 30 or 40 a minute.

See interesting "How its made" video, at 2:50 they show the rolling process.
http://youtu.be/86wqjQbOw0w

Russ/40 09-04-2013 01:05 PM

Re: 8BA sparkplug verification
 

I've run different Champions, and Autolites as well as the NGKb6l. The NGKs win hands down for me. Never had a bad one in many thousands of touring miles.

banjoQ 09-11-2013 10:01 PM

Re: 8BA sparkplug verification
 

Just an update for those that weighed in on my question. As stated in an earlier post, my 8BA had Autolite AL-7s' in it. Probably from the fifties. Armed with the info given by you all, I was able to find a set of Champion H-12s'. Gapped and installed them. I know these were not the popular favorite but the improvement was huge! The Autolites in the motor were in worse shape than I remembered. And the gaps were all over the map! At any rate, these will certainly do for now and I have some time to track down a set of AL 216s' for later. Thanks again for the advice.

Topsterguy 04-02-2014 11:05 PM

Re: 8BA sparkplug verification
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross F-1 (Post 719427)
Just put in a set of Autolite 216's. They work great.

What do you gap these at?

49r 04-03-2014 01:58 AM

Re: 8BA sparkplug verification
 

Champion H-10, gap 25.

Ross F-1 04-03-2014 08:58 AM

Re: 8BA sparkplug verification
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Topsterguy (Post 852557)
What do you gap these at?

With stock ignition, .025".

51504bat 04-03-2014 10:20 AM

Re: 8BA sparkplug verification
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vic Piano (Post 719510)
John,

I like blondes, brunettes & redheads :D ;) but I wouldn't put Champion spark plugs in a lawnmower... :eek: Autolite 216's and Autolite 437's (for aluminum after-market heads) are what I run.

The last set of Champion H-10 plugs I bought for my 8ba were individually packaged as small engine plugs. So Champion H-10 plugs ARE lawnmower plugs.

Topsterguy 04-03-2014 10:27 AM

Re: 8BA sparkplug verification
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by 51504bat (Post 852728)
The last set of Champion H-10 plugs I bought for my 8ba were individually packaged as small engine plugs. So Champion H-10 plugs ARE lawnmower plugs.

LOL, thanks for the info guys, but I have to agree....... Champion plugs are for lawnmowers so I think I'd stick with the Autolite 216's! ;)


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