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Msaby 06-18-2013 10:46 PM

Another Charging question
 

I am now at the point where I would like to check out the charging system. I have read several posts and have read other publications but I am still very confused. At idle the amp guage reads slightly on the charge size. When I accelerate the guage peaks on the charging side. I placed a voltmeter on the battery and I get a reading of 6.58 volts. I am not sure what it should read. All the wiring is correct and I have cleaned all connections. I understand that the generater (powerhouse style) can be adjusted. I don't understand what is meant by removing the cover band and pry the brush to adjust it. I can't seem to find what the amp guage should read under normal conditions. I have also read if I plan to use the lights a lot I should increase it by 2amps. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Mike

Tom Wesenberg 06-19-2013 02:57 AM

Re: Another Charging question
 

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If you unsnap the wire on the rear cover you will see one brush has a slot so it can be slid up and down. Loosen the screw and slide it up to lower the adjustment. Be very careful, as the bakelit ring is very fragile, and already often cracked or broken.

My powerhouse was putting out more than I liked, so I started making electronic voltage regulators that fit inside the rear cover. With the EVR, the adjustable brush is removed, so no further adjustments will ever be needed. If I wasn't running with my EVR, then I'd try to get the amps to about 2, unless I did a lot of night driving.

Here's a picture showing the brush holder with the EVR installed on a 3 brush powerhouse and notice the adjustable brush has been removed.

Jim/GA 06-19-2013 08:25 AM

Re: Another Charging question
 

An EVR is the way to go. Otherwise the generator puts out pretty much constant amps (once the RPM is high enough to put out anything at all) and that constant current is going to be wrong a lot of the time. You will either end up with a dead battery (that's why Ford provided the hand crank) or you will be boiling water out of your overcharged battery.

This is a hidden modification that does not detract one bit from the original look and feel of the Model A, so why not do it?

From reading the Service Bulletins, you can tell car owners of the day had to mess around a lot with batteries. They were changing the charge rate winter and summer, they were taking specific gravity readings on the acid in each cell, etc. We take them for granted today.

Msaby 06-20-2013 11:46 AM

Re: Another Charging question
 

How diffcult is it to install an EVR and where would I be able to obtain one. Once installed is there any adjustment at all?

I hope to get out in the garage this weekend to take a look at the generator.

Thanks
Mike

Jim/GA 06-21-2013 06:08 AM

Re: Another Charging question
 

I think Tom sells one. Not hard to put in.

Patrick L. 06-21-2013 07:50 AM

Re: Another Charging question
 

Yep, Tom W sells them. Not hard to install, Tom even furnishes the instructions ! It is a good addition, just install it and go.

Purdy Swoft 06-21-2013 09:55 AM

Re: Another Charging question
 

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Originally Posted by Msaby (Post 674110)
How diffcult is it to install an EVR and where would I be able to obtain one. Once installed is there any adjustment at all?

I hope to get out in the garage this weekend to take a look at the generator.

Thanks
Mike

There are at least three different EVR setups available, all good, as far as I know. I use the Fun Projects can style voltage regulator. The Fun Projects regulator looks like the early 27-28 cutout. It mounts in place of the cutout, no modifications to the generator are necessary. For the six volt version, you set the third brush for a fifteen amp maximum charge and thats it. It works like modern cars. They also have a twelve volt version. I have used both the six and twelve volt versions. I.ve been running the twelve volt regulator on our roadster for seven years and love it.


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