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glenn in camino 04-14-2013 04:43 PM

0 compression in # 1
 

I've driven my A 50 miles since I installed new rings and a Snyder 5.5 head. This morning it wasn't running right so I checked the compression and found that #1 had 0. There was also oil coming out the breather pipe. I suspect a broken ring so I'm pulling the head and pan to pull out #1 piston. I'll let you know what I find.

Patrick L. 04-14-2013 05:16 PM

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Could hear anything strange or different ? Did you try and check the valve lash or retightening the head gasket?

Larry Seemann 04-14-2013 06:17 PM

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Check for a stuck valve. Lots easier than pulling the head!

Tom Wesenberg 04-14-2013 06:31 PM

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Turn the engine to number 1 firing, then remove the spark plug and blow air down the plug hole. If it comes blowing right out the breather then it sounds like a busted piston. Out the intake or exhaust could be a stuck valve.

Mitch//pa 04-14-2013 06:35 PM

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Agree do a leak down test first but with your description of blowby sounds like piston

QGolden 04-14-2013 06:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg (Post 632582)
Turn the engine to number 1 firing, then remove the spark plug and blow air down the plug hole. If it comes blowing right out the breather then it sounds like a busted piston. Out the intake or exhaust could be a stuck valve.

I've never thought of that!. Brilliant.

Tom Wesenberg 04-14-2013 07:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitch//pa (Post 632585)
Agree do a leak down test first but with your description of blowby sounds like piston

I agree that it's almost got to be a busted piston. I'm anxious to see the picture and wonder what was the cause. I know the high compression head needs LESS spark advance, so I hope it wasn't from driving too advanced. :confused:

P.S. 04-14-2013 07:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg (Post 632582)
Turn the engine to number 1 firing, then remove the spark plug and blow air down the plug hole. If it comes blowing right out the breather then it sounds like a busted piston. Out the intake or exhaust could be a stuck valve.


That's BRILLIANT!!!

Richard in Anaheim CA 04-14-2013 10:31 PM

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Glenn,

I think it is a stuck valve. You would get some blowby out the breather with only 50 miles on it anyhow. Look down the sparkplug hole with the engine at TDC. You may see a valve open.

Dump some Marvel Mystery Oil in the gas and squirt some in #1while you are at it.

Richard
Anaheim CA

MikeK 04-14-2013 10:34 PM

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With your oil puking out the filler pipe it's not likely a valve. A piston doesn't have to break or have a hole to show zero. This engine was 52-58-55-0. This piston design did not have a reduced diameter at the ring lands. Running about 58mph it was at full throttle and the piston heat expansion exceeded the bore. It was not overheated, the water was about 180. The scraping froze the rings fully compressed into the lands and when it cooled off and the piston contracted there was no ring contact. This was not a build that I did !

Surprisingly the cylinder was not very scuffed and would have cleaned up with just a light touch of the hone and the piston could have been saved with a ring groove reamer and a little clean up. Not being a babbitt fan, I just threw the pistons and rods in the trash and rebuilt everything.

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/e...a550093948.jpg


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