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52merc 03-27-2013 05:51 PM

fuel push rod insert
 

ok guys heres a curly one for you has anyone pulled the pushrod sleeve out of 8ba without pulling the whole engine apart:confused:

ken ct 03-27-2013 06:10 PM

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They never wear out why change it. There sloppy to begin with. No need to change. ken ct.

19Fordy 03-27-2013 06:29 PM

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Here's some helpful info.
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/search...archid=2706454

habbott 03-27-2013 08:26 PM

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Can anyone give me the size of the push rod bush hole in the block on 59A bush looks really thin need to punch it out.

52merc 03-28-2013 12:59 AM

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i asked the question simply because there has been threads on this before about plugging the bush as the oill sprays up @ if i remember right someone said it can effect your oil pressure on a 8ba not a 59a or earlier

habbott 03-28-2013 02:07 AM

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Bush was damaged when cam bearing was in stalled. The fuel pump push rod wont fit the hole too tight.

ken ct 03-28-2013 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by habbott (Post 619677)
Can anyone give me the size of the push rod bush hole in the block on 59A bush looks really thin need to punch it out.

They are real thin new. Leave it alone. ken ct. There is no oil pressure down there,just a mist at best.

JWL 03-28-2013 06:20 AM

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If the cam bearing damaged the pushrod bushing, what does the cam bearing look like now?? How did the pushrod bushing move downward into the cam bearing housing?

I believe my 59A bushing driver is .390 O.D. with a .360 pilot. Obviously the cam is out and the bushing is driven into the cam bearing housing with this tool.

ken ct 03-28-2013 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by habbott (Post 619812)
Bush was damaged when cam bearing was in stalled. The fuel pump push rod wont fit the hole too tight.

Even new ones are NOT tight,there real sloppy. ken ct.

31chevy 03-28-2013 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by habbott (Post 619812)
Bush was damaged when cam bearing was in stalled. The fuel pump push rod wont fit the hole too tight.

I had the same problem with my 37 block with the machinist installed bushing, measure the diameter of the push rod & use a drill bit the same size & coat the bit with heavy grease so it will pick up the shavings &VERY SLOWLY DRILL IT OUT. it worked for me.
Gary.

ken ct 03-28-2013 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by habbott (Post 619812)
Bush was damaged when cam bearing was in stalled. The fuel pump push rod wont fit the hole too tight.

Maybe i got it backwards,i thought you said it was too sloppy,no problem there. If its opposite dont know what to do about that.There impossible to remove with cam in place and too thin to cut thread in it to pull it out???? ken ct. Good luck.

Russ/40 03-28-2013 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by 52merc (Post 619585)
ok guys heres a curly one for you has anyone pulled the pushrod sleeve out of 8ba without pulling the whole engine apart:confused:

http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/r...0/CIMG1184.jpg

Yes. It can be done, as long as we are talking 8BA. I won't get into the why of your situation, just how to do it. You need a quality 1/2" 20 tap. The bushing is very hard. You will have to put a lot of weight into the tap to get it going. Fill the bushing with grease, and it will catch any chips. Make a puller as pictured to pull it after you tap it.


http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/r...0/CIMG1183.jpg

The first photo shows the bushing on the end of the puller after it was pulled.

19Fordy 03-28-2013 04:53 PM

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I know this topic has been discussed at length. I did not remove that bushing in my 8BA when i removed the push rod and it DID not lower the oil pressure. Other reports may vary.

habbott 03-29-2013 02:24 AM

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Thanks JWL the size is just what am looking for. Not sure about the cam bearing. But the cam fits and rotates ok.

BrianCT 03-29-2013 08:36 PM

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habbott.
Why not grind or sand a little off the sides of the rod on lower end??

Karl Wolf 03-30-2013 02:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JWL (Post 619829)
If the cam bearing damaged the pushrod bushing, what does the cam bearing look like now?? How did the pushrod bushing move downward into the cam bearing housing?

I believe my 59A bushing driver is .390 O.D. with a .360 pilot. Obviously the cam is out and the bushing is driven into the cam bearing housing with this tool.


I just mic'd a couple of used 59a fuel pump bushings, O.D. is .441 or so...
I put a 7/16 valve guide in the hole once, it fit well...
Karl

pooch 05-21-2017 11:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 52merc (Post 619805)
i asked the question simply because there has been threads on this before about plugging the bush as the oill sprays up @ if i remember right someone said it can effect your oil pressure on a 8ba not a 59a or earlier


I have ordered a new bush, but it seems it may not be necessary after reading this?

My block is C69A, is this the same as a 59A and a possible worn bush will not effect oil pressure?

No point in fixing it if it ain't broke.

BTW, I found this thread on a search for how to remove cam bearings, but nothing specifically came up to answer my question.

Andy 05-22-2017 08:43 AM

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The bushing will not effect oil pressure unless it is worn to the point it has a hole in it. There is no pressurized oil to the rear cam bearing so there is no pressure to loose. Pressurized oil flows around it in the main oil galley.

51 MERC-CT 05-22-2017 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Andy (Post 1475802)
The bushing will not effect oil pressure unless it is worn to the point it has a hole in it. There is no pressurized oil to the rear cam bearing so there is no pressure to loose. Pressurized oil flows around it in the main oil galley.

The push rod bushing on an 8BA does in fact have a hole in it to lubricate the push rod with residual oil lubricating the cam bearing and push rod lobe.
With the push rod removed you will loose oil pressure.

pooch 05-22-2017 05:48 PM

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So I should be able to maybe feel down the bush and feel for any oil hole facing forward , in case an 8BA bush has been fitted, and if no hole and bush looks OK, leave it be then ?

The block is stripped right down ready to assemble when parts arrive.


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