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stillwater 08-15-2019 02:17 AM

steering column removal

How do I get the column mount off @ the frame?

I've removed most of the bolts, have 4 that are on the edge but held by something I don't know about...

stillwater 08-15-2019 02:23 AM

Re: steering column removal

Removing the steering so I can pull the cab off the frame.

Joe K 08-15-2019 06:32 AM

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There are only four bolts TOTAL that hold the steering column in place.

Two at the frame which hold the sector shaft housing to the frame. You'll see the nuts for these on either side of the pitman arm shaft as it comes out on the outside of the drivers side of the frame.

Two others at the gasoline tank lower bracket. These are actually slotted screws and play a minor role in holding the steering column. More to prevent vibration in the hands of the driver.

Technically, you can remove the two upper bolts and the body can be lifted from the frame leaving the steering column behind. The body was originally installed with the steering column in place (ref: assembly line pictures) although the body does require some "snaking" around the column and most modern restorers don't have the headroom or the equipment to do this: most prefer to remove the column before the body.
Even removing the four bolts, you'll still have some issues with removing the column. Its probably best (makes more room for maneuvering) if you remove the steering wheel first.

And of course, lest I forget - you want to remove the pitman arm first. But there is a list of items to be removed preparatory to the column removal.

You may have a two-tooth sector unit (later Model A after say early 1929) and are trying to un-bolt and separate the sector shaft housing from the sector housing itself. You will dump a load of lubricant (grease or 600W oil) if you do this - sort of like trying to remove the oil pan on the engine without draining it first.

Hope this helps.

Joe K

stillwater 08-15-2019 07:28 AM

Re: steering column removal

I have a '30 closed cab pickup...already unbolted from the tank in the cab.

took four bolts out of part at the bottom, seems like it should come off but acts like something is still holding it on. I haven't been too brave with a hammer, yet lol.

Gave up and called it a night.

stillwater 08-15-2019 07:34 AM

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About ready to just take bed off too, and worm the cab off and leave the @!$# steering there. Lol

Working on the cab first anyway... but any ideas appreciated.

Joe K- I haven't removed the pitman arm, didn't look like I needed to. But I started late at night, maybe I wasn't thinking clearly. I'll check it out.

ryanheacox 08-15-2019 07:48 AM

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Definitely need to remove the pitman arm to pull the steering box. Could you post some pictures of those 4 bolts? I think you may be referring to the 4 nuts that attach the sector housing to the box?

Technically I suppose you could separate the sector housing and the box and pull it that way but I wouldn't want to do it.

Tom Wesenberg 08-15-2019 08:26 AM

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By removing the 4 bolts on the side of the steering box, you have messed with some of the steering adjustments, so be sure to follow the correct setup procedure in the SERVICE BULLETINS.

Dick Steinkamp 08-15-2019 09:17 AM

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You have removed the 4 nuts indicated by the red arrow. These are removed when the column is out of the car to service the sector shaft. Replace them. As Tom states, you will have to readjust the column now using the shop manual instructions once you have the column out of the car.

The pitman arm attaches to the sector shaft indicated by the pink arrow. Remove the pitman arm.

The TWO bolts that hold the column to the frame are indicated by the yellow arrow. Remove these two bolts.

whirnot 08-15-2019 10:43 AM

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Also remove the starter first to give you room to slide it out.

5lugnuts 08-15-2019 11:19 AM

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Leave the wheel on and the toe board in place. Remove pitman arm, light switch, sector housing and sector, (dump the 600 wt and refill with John Deer Corn grease later), unbolt dash bracket. Maybe remove the starter for clearance. Without the sector and it's housing the column and wheel can be removed through the hole in the toe board and maneuvered out the door easily. Your going to adjust the box later anyway.

If the toe board is out already, that is easier but it does not have to be removed.

redmodelt 08-15-2019 07:40 PM

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Ah I think you have to remove the pedals too.

stillwater 08-15-2019 11:35 PM

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Thanks for the dad came over today and showed me what was was a late night and I should have been in bed lol...

5lugnuts 08-16-2019 12:35 PM

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You don't have to remove the pedals if the sector and starter are removed. Just saying for future readers.

Removing the starter gives clearance to angle the wheel and column out the door. If you want you can work on the box while in the engine compartment and not touch the light switch or starter. The sector bushings leak from wear and come with the housing repair kit if I remember right. Don't forget the John Deer corn head grease.

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