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1930artdeco 08-10-2022 03:44 PM

Gas gauge gaskets
 

Hi I can’t remember but do I use sealant on the gaskets for the gas gauge?

Mike

alexiskai 08-10-2022 03:47 PM

Re: Gas gauge gaskets
 

Red book sez, "Do not use sealant on either of the sight glass gaskets."

fundytides 08-10-2022 04:26 PM

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After reading lots of older posts and getting current advise, I used a little bit of Maple Syrup on mine and it worked fine. The consensus seems to be that the maple syrup reacts with gasoline to form a leak-proof seal. Your experience may vary!

Big hammer 08-10-2022 05:04 PM

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A little grease!

psimet 08-10-2022 05:22 PM

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Interesting. I put mine together a year ago and it leaked IIRC. I vaguely remember talking to Ken Ehrenhofer who said to put some of the black sealant on. I could be mistaken but pretty sure it was him. I did and it worked great.

ursus 08-10-2022 06:17 PM

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I prefer to use a fuel resistant non-hardening sealant such as Permatex High Temp Thread Sealant.

JoeCB 08-10-2022 06:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fundytides (Post 2156118)
After reading lots of older posts and getting current advise, I used a little bit of Maple Syrup on mine and it worked fine. The consensus seems to be that the maple syrup reacts with gasoline to form a leak-proof seal. Your experience may vary!

I have heard to use molasses; I did and no leaks. I guess the same idea as with maple syrup, the sugar is not soluble in gasoline. may be why the nasty trick of "sugar in the fuel tank" disabled a car.
Also , thinking ... Maple syrup if you live up north and molasses for the folks down south.
A suspect that any sealant that is hydrocarbon based will eventually fail after long time emersion in gasoline.

Joe B

Ivan in southeast va. 08-10-2022 06:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by big hammer (Post 2156134)
a little grease!

x 2

Synchro909 08-10-2022 07:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeCB (Post 2156158)
A suspect that any sealant that is hydrocarbon based will eventually fail after long time emersion in gasoline.

Joe B

For years, Car makers used plastic fuel tanks. Neoprene is hydrocarbon based, yet it is fuel safe and yes, cork is hydrogen and carbon based - it is organic. These are just a few that popped into my head and there will be other examples of gasoline proof hydrocarbons.
I think your suspicions are unfounded, fortunately.

1930artdeco 08-10-2022 07:10 PM

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Thanks, it has been so long since I had to change out the float I could not remember.

Mike

bearbait 08-11-2022 08:50 AM

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I put in a new float last season only with the supplied gaskets in the kit...no leaks yet!

goodcar 08-11-2022 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 1930artdeco (Post 2156102)
Hi I can’t remember but do I use sealant on the gaskets for the gas gauge?

Mike

In addition to all the sealant advice, use cork gaskets. Neoprene guaranteed to leak.

1930artdeco 08-11-2022 10:17 AM

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I changed it out and will fill it up tonight to check for leaks. And yes I don't trust neoprene gaskets to save my life.

Mike

Tom Endy 08-11-2022 10:23 AM

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The secret to prevent a leak is to use additional brass rings.

Tom Endy


https://www.santaanitaas.org/wp-cont...uge-Repair.pdf

rotorwrench 08-11-2022 10:24 AM

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Nitrile rubber also know as Buna-N or Butadiene was developed before WWII for use in seals and o-rings for petroleum products and aeromatic hydrocarbons or fuels. It is still used for some applications in aviation but has been slowly replaced by fluorocarbon and fluorosilicone elastomers with the latter being most common for fuels. These types have over 20-year shelf life capability so the change over in aviation was for that reason. Fluorocarbon elastomer is also known as Viton as a trade name but patents expired years ago.

Cork gaskets are generally granulated pieces of cork bonded together by some form of elastomer so not all cork gaskets are good fuel gaskets. Neoprene or polychloroprene is an elastomer that is very hard and durable after it has been vulcanized. It's good for oils, alcohols, and a few other mild solvents but not so good with modern gasolene. If the cork is bonded with neoprene then it may not last long. If it's bonded with nitrile rubber then it should be OK. The problem is that it is difficult to tell what the bond material is since they both look alike.

goodcar 08-11-2022 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by rotorwrench (Post 2156333)
Nitrile rubber also know as Buna-N or Butadiene was developed before WWII for use in seals and o-rings for petroleum products and aeromatic hydrocarbons or fuels. It is still used for some applications in aviation but has been slowly replaced by fluorocarbon and fluorosilicone elastomers with the latter being most common for fuels. These types have over 20-year shelf life capability so the change over in aviation was for that reason. Fluorocarbon elastomer is also known as Viton as a trade name but patents expired years ago.

Cork gaskets are generally granulated pieces of cork bonded together by some form of elastomer so not all cork gaskets are good fuel gaskets. Neoprene or polychloroprene is an elastomer that is very hard and durable after it has been vulcanized. It's good for oils, alcohols, and a few other mild solvents but not so good with modern gasolene. If the cork is bonded with neoprene then it may not last long. If it's bonded with nitrile rubber then it should be OK. The problem is that it is difficult to tell what the bond material is since they both look alike.

I'm not a scientist, all I know is that I tried the neoprene gaskets sold by Snyders and others. A year later they started leaking. I replaced them with cork, don't know what the composition was. Probably lucked out and got good ones. That was several years ago. They haven't leaked. Just my experience.

The Master Cylinder 08-11-2022 12:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Big hammer (Post 2156134)
A little grease!

I use a little grease also. I don't like using any sealant if I don't have to. It just makes it hard on the next guy (probably me!) to get it apart and cleaned up next time That is what the gasket is for.

I use Buta-N/cork gaskets.

JayJay 08-11-2022 12:43 PM

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I use cork gaskets with a thin coating of Hylomar Universal Blue on each side. I also use (as Tom E suggests) two brass rings to allow slippage between them as the ring is tightened. 100% success.

It's also important to get the back (sealing) side of the glass thoroughly clean and smooth. Putting it in with even the slightest amount of residue (like from the last guy that put it together with Permatex ;-) ) is tempting fate.

JayJay

CarlG 08-11-2022 08:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Endy (Post 2156331)
The secret to prevent a leak is to use additional brass rings.

Tom Endy


https://www.santaanitaas.org/wp-cont...uge-Repair.pdf

Those little brass rings work quite well on leaky radiator caps as well.:)

old31 08-12-2022 07:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ursus (Post 2156157)
I prefer to use a fuel resistant non-hardening sealant such as Permatex High Temp Thread Sealant.

x2. I agree 100%.


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