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26 lakes 01-21-2012 07:55 PM

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I hate to butt in on a thread, but I need the wisdom of the COE scholars out there. I went out to a mans property today to look at two old COE trucks. He is in the process of removing a handful of vehicles off of his property. He was {is} planning on taking them to the crusher. I am going to negotiate with him and try and salvage what I can. My question is what parts other than sheet metal and motor and transmission have value to the guys trying to rescue these old relics. I am posting some pictures. One is the 1941 up era. The other is a 1956.

alanwoodieman 01-21-2012 10:44 PM

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two speed rear end, front axle, springs, steering gear and linkage, rimas if they are good

alanwoodieman 01-22-2012 08:49 AM

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forgot to mention, I would like the 4 spoke steering whell

47COE 01-22-2012 09:16 AM

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Get the glove box door. One recently came up on eBay and there were quite a few bidders. So all the people that didn't win that auction would be interested in another one.

Also, get the gas tank. They are unique to the COE and reproductions aren't available.

Tom

COE Dan 01-22-2012 04:47 PM

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cwh...good progress on your '41 refurb...tell us how it goes...

Also, on the derelict COE, how does the 2-speed rear axle shifter work. Normally I've seen a large vacuum diaphragm and vacuum lines run from a knob actuating a cable to the vacuum valve. This truck appears to have a third lever in the cab (hand brake, transmission, and rear axle???) Is there a mechanical linkage to the rear axle? It appears that way from the rear axle photos.

Can you confirm? I'd be interested in the mechanical linkage and lever if it's complete. My truck is locked in high because the vacuum assembly leaks and I think a mechanical shift would be more reliable (but might be harder time the shift).

COE Dan

47COE 01-22-2012 08:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by COE Dan (Post 348892)
This truck appears to have a third lever in the cab (hand brake, transmission, and rear axle???) Is there a mechanical linkage to the rear axle? It appears that way from the rear axle photos.

COE Dan

The extra shift lever might be to a second transmission behind the 4 speed. That's what I have: 4 speed, followed by a 3 speed. Each with its own shift lever.

He can easily check this by looking to see if there is a second transmission.

If there are two transmissions, then that truck has a lot of options with 4, 3, and two speed rear end for a total of 24 speeds forward and 6 reverse.

Edit: looking at the first photo, there doesn't appear to be a second transmission. If present it would probably be visible in that photo.


Tom

26 lakes 01-22-2012 09:12 PM

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I will continue to keep pictures in front of you guys. I should be back out to take more pictures this week. Thanks for the knowledge.

cwh 01-22-2012 10:25 PM

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26 Lakes,

Looks like a good find. If you end up with that early Ford I'd love to have that heater in the drivers footwell. It's COLD up here.

Chris

cwh 01-25-2012 03:53 AM

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The old flattie is back in and begging to make noise. Slowly but surely putting everything back together. Not sure about the new motor mounts. I can't get the cotter pins back in with all the washers in place. I spent WAY too much time getting them figured out tonight. Probably should have walked away and looked at them tomorrow. Anyway, here's my progress so far.
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o.../enginein2.jpg
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o.../enginein1.jpg

alanwoodieman 01-25-2012 08:54 AM

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a lot of us have had the same problem with the new mounts, pull out an old one and I will bet it is not as tall or thick as the new ones. I sanded down mine a bit to get the cotter pin in or just use a locking nut.

cwh 01-26-2012 11:22 AM

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Got my oldest boy working with me in the garage last night. He's the third generation with the initials cwh that's worked these tools. It was awesome. He did great and showed a lot of interest for working on the truck.

cwh

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o...talworking.jpg

On another note. That's a snowblower in the background. It moves mass amounts of snow out of the driveway. If you've never seen one up close your not missing anything. If you take a drive from a warmer climate and you come across one you've gone WAY too far.

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o...centration.jpg

alanwoodieman 01-26-2012 01:44 PM

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Looking good, cwh the 3 rd is busy learning about old trucks and spending time with Dad, could not be better. my sister-in-law just moved to Canada, Ft MacMurry, she moved there from the middle east, husband works for shell oil. Going from hot to cold must be an experience!!

alanwoodieman 03-17-2012 06:32 PM

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OK CWH time for an update. On the road yet? Has CWH3 learned to double clutch. Rode around in my 41 small truck today with the 38 cabover right behind me. I think I could be carrying naked ladies in the stakebed and the curious people would rather look at his cabover!! They sure gather the gawkers and the talkers.

Mike in AZ 03-17-2012 07:30 PM

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great thread....thanks for sharing....Mike

cwh 03-17-2012 10:46 PM

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Sorry. I've been out of town and working a bunch lately. No, it's not on the road but it's getting close. I've been working on the wiring lately. This time I had my 9 year old son Brayden out in the garage with me. He was helping me with the massive job of wiring the truck. The COE didn't have any wiring or electrical devices when I bought it so I had to start from scratch. Thanks to some generous "Barn" members, I received by email some very nice simplified wiring diagrams to get started. I'm an electronics/electrical technician by trade but this project was surprisingly intimidating. I wanted to get it right the first time so I've taken my time in planning every circuit out. The new fuse/distribution block has been installed under the passenger seat and all new circuits have been terminated. All the new wiring was run in the original style cloth loom. The truck turns over now, the horn and lighting all work. I need to wire up the new fuel pump. I ordered a new distributor this week and will finish that up when I get home in a week or so. After that I'll be able to drive it to the muffler shop and have a new exhaust system built. Any suggestions on the exhaust. I'm leaning towards deleting the mufflers and running 2" exhaust that dumps out on both sides behind the steps.

I'll post a few pics later this week.

Chris

Graeme / New Zealand 03-17-2012 10:57 PM

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Neat truck. We don't see a lot of these in New Zealand now but I'm sure they plied the roads here many moons ago. When I was a kid in the 60's our local fire station had a Heavy duty 41 same grill but a conventional nose. They had a jailbar as well. Loved the sound of those big beasts. I was sad to see them replaced by an English Dennis and a Commer.

GB

cwh 03-20-2012 01:04 AM

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A few progress pics.

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o...kinplace-1.jpg

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o...13/harness.jpg

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o...blockinCOE.jpg

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o...h13/wiring.jpg

alanwoodieman 03-20-2012 09:13 AM

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CWH-very neat looking circuit board. Looks like you will br ready for the road soon. Alan

cwh 04-03-2012 01:35 PM

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She's alive. Fired right up without turning a full rotation. She purred like a kitten. More pics and status to follow.

47COE 04-03-2012 03:24 PM

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Congratulations!


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