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DavidG 07-13-2021 08:58 AM

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Me, myself, and I make a good team when pulling or installing engine transmission assemblies as the addition of other well-meaning helpers has a tendency to speed up the process which often leads to mistakes. It is reminiscent of having too many helpers when loading and unloading vehicles from closed trailers or the old saw, "too many cooks spoil the broth".

Itchy-Pit 07-13-2021 11:13 AM

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LOVE the truck! Get it running and drive it! Dont lose time with a restoratiion. My two cents. Dennis

sugarmaker 07-13-2021 11:32 AM

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Dennis, David, Rock, Folks,

I do work better on my own sometimes too! just take my time and try to be safe. This was the first real test of my home grown, designed and built jib. Maybe 500 lbs?? Anyway it did a very good job and was the perfect tool, along with the 1 ton Dayton electric hoist that I rebuilt, and the HF leveler.

Rock,
I had used some gas but its not a good thing to use due to the flammability issues So I switched to using Kerosene as the solvent. Maybe not the best cleaner, but these parts are not going to get totally cleaned because I do not plan to paint them. Which I have done every part and nut and bolt on projects and this is kind of a relief. So I do an initial scrape off of the protective coating of grease then soak and brush the solvent. After it has dried I go over the surface with a hand held piece of sand paper to get the loose paint off.
The gasket areas get a scotch brite disc on a air a die grinder.
I try to get in the habit of cleaning these items before I set them aside. It helps with the assembly work later if they are somewhat ready to go back on the engine.

Dennis,
That is the plan but it needs some love. Unless I can find another engine? Humm Maybe??:)

Ford Folks,
Scattered pictures:
The key in the U joint on the PTO box:
https://i.imgur.com/mUexcyz.jpg

AAB minus engine and trans:
https://i.imgur.com/Op48ci6.jpg

Empty in there, but easy to work on!:
https://i.imgur.com/UOHGCUt.jpg

The big U joint on the end of the transmission:
https://i.imgur.com/TLKJPH2.jpg

Resting:
https://i.imgur.com/ErPtPUC.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/UNlLkBw.jpg

Shift tower:
https://i.imgur.com/GP9tEj7.jpg

Snyder's helps protect the cast pulley:
https://i.imgur.com/w0CqY3N.jpg

Regards,
Chris

sugarmaker 07-13-2021 10:03 PM

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Folks,
I did get a start on the seat frames.Some Ash wood from here on the place.
https://i.imgur.com/jTI3EMQ.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/IF1LAlm.jpg

Still noodling these frames.

Regards,
Chris

Brendan 07-14-2021 04:41 PM

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I have been reading your thread , thanks for the work on it. your BB truck is very kool! and you will have a good time with it. hear is my Beater 36 pickup. its a old work truck that has survived.

sugarmaker 07-14-2021 09:08 PM

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Brendan,
Your truck looks like it still is ready to do some work too! Hoping mine can be ready for some trips next year this time. I am going to miss a local show this weekend, but will survive!
You and me both on the spelling thing, and the snake bite I can releate to also. Hope things are good at the table!
Regards,
Chris

1983F-250 07-15-2021 03:29 PM

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Chris I absouletly love all your posts both here and on the Allis page. You do things right.
I am in the process of a 1946 KB-2 IHC restortation.
Keep up the good work.

sugarmaker 07-15-2021 05:50 PM

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1983F-250,
Thanks for the kind words. Guess I am leaving bread crumbs all over the place!
Tractors will be the theme for the next few days and the 32 will get some needed rest After being poked and prodded for the last month!
Regards,
Chris

OsoFord 07-16-2021 01:22 PM

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Hi All,
I'm new to Forums and this site, so sorry if I'm in the wrong place.
I work as a fleet manager for someone who has a 33 BB with the 8 cylinder flat head. The information I have is this is stock and was rare as it normally has a 4 cylinder. He purchased it several years back and had a half way restoration on it. It currently has fuel problems. I found debris and rust in the fuel tank, lines, pump and carb. The tank has been sent out to Rock Valley in Illinois, to be rebuilt in stainless. I've taken on the rest and have started with the fuel pump. I ordered a rebuild kit from Dennis Carpenter and a few problems have come up. The pump is the early model with NO glass bowl. Dennis Carpenter says there is only the 2 early pumps. My pump has different check valves they are not in a brass housing and the filter has 2 holes not one. I've run into a few differences between the BB and B models. Is there another kit to purchase? Could I replace this pump with the one sold on the B model? any help would be great thanks in advance.

rockfla 07-16-2021 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by OsoFord (Post 2036631)
Hi All,
I'm new to Forums and this site, so sorry if I'm in the wrong place.
I work as a fleet manager for someone who has a 33 BB with the 8 cylinder flat head. The information I have is this is stock and was rare as it normally has a 4 cylinder. He purchased it several years back and had a half way restoration on it. It currently has fuel problems. I found debris and rust in the fuel tank, lines, pump and carb. The tank has been sent out to Rock Valley in Illinois, to be rebuilt in stainless. I've taken on the rest and have started with the fuel pump. I ordered a rebuild kit from Dennis Carpenter and a few problems have come up. The pump is the early model with NO glass bowl. Dennis Carpenter says there is only the 2 early pumps. My pump has different check valves they are not in a brass housing and the filter has 2 holes not one. I've run into a few differences between the BB and B models. Is there another kit to purchase? Could I replace this pump with the one sold on the B model? any help would be great thanks in advance.

Take your "original" fuel pump and carburetor and put them in a box. Next get a pen and a label and address it to:


Charlie Schwindler

5845 Cole Road
Orchard Park NY 14127.
-----OR-----
cas5845@yahoo.com



He is CharlieNY here on the barn!!!!



Next wait a few weeks until he calls or emails you, give him the $$$ and when they arrive back to you, bolt them back on and you are GOOD TO GO!!!!!!


ALSO IF you can post pictures of what you "actually" have....... there are MANY on here who can advise you BEST on what you have, IF it's correct, and the best people, way or process to achieve what you want with your project. Good luck and hope to see the 33 soon!!!!!

DavidG 07-16-2021 01:53 PM

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Actually, if it's a '33, the four-cylinder version is the rarer of the two; it's the '32 big trucks where a V8 version is rare (very rare, if actually produced that way).


As Robert indicates, a photo would inform us if your fuel pump is indeed an original '33 or it has been replaced with a '34 and up version (a very common occurrence). they are as different as night and day and have almost no common components.

OsoFord 07-16-2021 03:42 PM

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Thanks guys,
I will try to post the picture but had no luck with the attachment when I first posted. That's great info on the motor.

rockfla 07-16-2021 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by OsoFord (Post 2036677)
Thanks guys,
I will try to post the picture but had no luck with the attachment when I first posted. That's great info on the motor.

just from what I can see of your above photo, that is NOT a 33 OR a 34 pump for that mater!!!! You need to post more of them to be able to tell exactly what year it is!!!!


Again, more reason for you to post more pictures of the engine and such AS I would suspect that the engine is NOT 33 either, given the pump you have!!!!!! Keep'em coming!!!

sugarmaker 07-16-2021 07:42 PM

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OsoFord,
Your fuel pump is different than mine on my 32.
You may want to start a thread on your truck build.
Yes sure would be neat to have a first year V8 in my truck.

Folks,
Ford was the feature tractor at our show. Have been there slogging around in the mud for 2 days and more rain coming!
Regards,
Chris

OsoFord 07-17-2021 10:11 AM

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Thanks Sugermaker, nice truck love your photos.

sugarmaker 07-17-2021 08:15 PM

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OsoFord,
Following your thread too! Thanks. These guys are the best!
Regards,
Chris

sugarmaker 07-20-2021 06:27 AM

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Folks,
Our local tractor show is history! I made it through. Very wet conditions, mixed with periods of flash flooding, and intermittent drizzle. I went to friends place in Madision Ohio and picked up his 1924 Fordson and brought it to the show.
Dennis, his wife, and his family tractor:
https://i.imgur.com/1aJfHoN.jpg

Feature was Ford tractors:
https://i.imgur.com/WsPlLRg.jpg

Weather was not good. We had only a dozen Fords at the show.
Friend Jim had his Tug on display too. They loved it!:
Thats Cooper (one of the great grandsons) at the wheel.
https://i.imgur.com/tosfsCt.jpg

Regards,
Chris

51504bat 07-20-2021 07:32 AM

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Too bad about the weather but great photos. Thanks for posting. Too bad you can't send some of your extra rain to the dry as a popcorn fart western US.

sugarmaker 07-20-2021 11:14 AM

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Folks,
Ok this is a stretch in the Ford world. On the way to take Dennis' tractor home the right front hub cap came loose and fell off! If anyone has a Fordson hub cap, let me know please.
Stuff happens when you get off the couch.
Back to the show grounds to try to fill in tracks in the yard.
Called my machine shop and told him the "B" engine is coming in a couple weeks.
Then the evaluation will begin and I hopefully can begin to get parts ordered too.
Looking at another tractor too. Found one at the show for sale. A Massey Harris "Pony" model with Woods 59 inch deck.
Regards,
Chris

derek costello 07-20-2021 12:12 PM

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Is that the power take off engagement for the hydraulic dump bed??

Or is it to engage a second speed transaxle??


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