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chiliman 07-06-2019 10:54 PM

Fire wall swap
 

Gess Is time consuming and hard to replace fire wall any one do before

BRENT in 10-uh-C 07-07-2019 12:34 AM

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Depends on the year model, -and your skill level as to the perceived difficulty. We have replaced several so I can probably walk you thru it if I know which year.

Why are you wanting to change firewalls? Is it because of damage or something else??

Oldbluoval 07-07-2019 04:36 AM

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Lots of spot welds to cut and several rivets
If you've removed both of those before and have the tools it’s not too bad
As per Brent, why??

john charlton 07-07-2019 09:15 AM

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I bought a 31 Budd cab which had been cut to take a V8 . I drilled out the spot welds and the firewall came out easily . I bought a good unmolested indented cowl for $100 and MIG welded it in . The factory spot welder leaves dimples so it is easy to see and then drill out .The donor firewall had the same spacing so it was easy to plugweld the connection . The only clue is there are now no 3 waffle rivets at the bottom where the cowl meets the frame just plug buttons . Fore and aft register is maintained by the rad tie rods to the cowl if you note where they were before you start .

John in overcast Suffolk County England .

Joe31 07-07-2019 12:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chiliman (Post 1774883)
Gess Is time consuming and hard to replace fire wall any one do before

I have a 30 31 firewall if you need one, Thanks Joe

chiliman 07-07-2019 01:38 PM

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Replacing because some one cut out for v8 it is s late 31 indented thanks

Charlie Stephens 07-07-2019 02:10 PM

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chiliman,

A picture of your firewall would probably answer a lot of questions and save a lot of conversations.

Charlie Stephens

chiliman 07-08-2019 03:29 PM

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Not sure how to put pic on here

Charlie Stephens 07-08-2019 03:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chiliman (Post 1775293)
Not sure how to put pic on here

If you want to get some up quick check your PM's for my email and email the pictures to me and you can then go to the test forum (https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=13) to practice at your leisure. What camera and computer are you using? The instructions from the FAQ section follow:


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Charlie Stephens

rotorwrench 07-08-2019 05:58 PM

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The indented firewall may be more difficult to find but they still made near a quarter to half million of them. A person can take the whole thing out but they can also clean it up and weld in just the part that was removed unless they cut right up to the edges and took most of it out. If you still have all the indented part for the fuel spigot, you could use one of the new 30/31 flat firewalls to build a good one if you want to keep it original. It just depends on how much is still there.

It's relatively easy to get to both sides for hammer & dolly work after the gas tank is out of the way. A lot of folks love the million spot weld method with a wire feed welder but I just use an aircraft type oxy/acetylene torch with the small tips then weld a little bit at a time. When you can get to both sides, it makes the job a lot easier. If the fit is close, a person doesn't even need filler rod but it's not a bad idea to keep some RG45 around. Wire feed rod it too hard so it has to be ground down. RG45 is soft enough that is will hammer flat pretty easy. Hammer welding is old school but it works well if you master it.


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