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Vin-tin 07-16-2017 02:54 PM

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...and many questions to follow as I start dissecting my coupe's body.

With the chassis mostly complete, I turned my attention to the body.
Pictured is what's left of the interior after I carefully removed the ugly vinyl someone installed.

Vin-tin 07-16-2017 03:00 PM

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I also removed an outer layer of grained roof material someone added.
I need to figure out what's original to the interior and roof, and how it was installed so I can make note of it for later.

Gunmetal blue2 07-16-2017 04:00 PM

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I never worked on a coupe but your on the right track. By the way your doing a aaaaaaasome job, keep up the good work. more pics the better for fixing thing latter.

d. 07-16-2017 04:34 PM

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go super careful with removing the trim strip at the bottom of the fabric top. Yours seems to be in very good condition and this trim strip is not reproduced. proceed with caution, you have an irreplaceable unique part.

Railcarmover 07-16-2017 05:35 PM

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Looks like you are missing the two stiffener wires that run from the main bow to the header. whats your plan? harrtz canvas? Im leaning toward black on mine,course thats about two hundred years from now:)

http://i66.tinypic.com/2cyjnrr.jpg

Im trying to figure how to correctly preserve the ash and fill the previous tack holes in..

WHN 07-16-2017 05:54 PM

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That Sport Coupe trim strip is a real gem to still have.

Your car will be great.

jm29henry 07-16-2017 07:26 PM

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It's going to be a great car best of luck to you please keep us updated

Vin-tin 07-16-2017 07:40 PM

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Here you can see the roof layers peeled back.
Exterior black covering, layer of cotton, burlap, some type of treated fabric, and finally a stiff paper / cardboard type material.
Is all that original?

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...1&d=1500235165

The stiff paper / cardboard type material is also sandwiched between the exterior black covering and the interior covering seen below on the sides of the roof. Near the bottom of the picture the interior cloth is missing exposing the cardboard.
Is this the way Henry did it?

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...1&d=1500234781

Vin-tin 07-16-2017 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Railcarmover (Post 1500271)
Looks like you are missing the two stiffener wires that run from the main bow to the header. whats your plan? harrtz canvas? Im leaning toward black on mine,course thats about two hundred years from now:)

http://i66.tinypic.com/2cyjnrr.jpg

Im trying to figure how to correctly preserve the ash and fill the previous tack holes in..

Can you further explain what the wires are? (pictures, dimensions, type of material, etc.)

Railcarmover 07-16-2017 08:11 PM

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Check out this link,its to Lebaron Bonneys top kit for a 29 Sport Coupe,it shows the cardboard stiffeners and 'reinforcing rods' which is what I was showing you.

https://www.lebaronbonney.com/cart/comp_kits.php

http://i68.tinypic.com/r8w2gy.jpg

http://i65.tinypic.com/2cp6nme.jpg

http://i66.tinypic.com/2vskolc.jpg

the rod itself is the same diameter as the spark and throttle rods

Railcarmover 07-16-2017 08:22 PM

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Hell,you might have them under the top you have..

Vin-tin 07-16-2017 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Railcarmover (Post 1500346)
Hell,you might have them under the top you have..

Thank you for the info.
I just checked. I do have them! They're sewn into the fabric top and look to be in excellent condition.

BILL WILLIAMSON 07-16-2017 09:50 PM

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It's fun to take a car apart & see someones' previous "handy work"!
Chief & I once did a Coupe top, using a NEW Cotton sack & coated it with that canned Roof Patching Tar, in a NO label can. Once it set awhile, we brushed it with an OLD STIFF brush & it looked like LOOOOONG GRAINED COPRA---LOL
BUT, it looked SUPER & didn't LEAK!
Bill & Chief Poor

Railcarmover 07-17-2017 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Vin-tin (Post 1500373)
Thank you for the info.
I just checked. I do have them! They're sewn into the fabric top and look to be in excellent condition.

Its the little surprises that keep you going..good luck.

Vin-tin 07-17-2017 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Railcarmover (Post 1500491)
Its the little surprises that keep you going..good luck.

Yes it is and I love it.
I also noticed very thin flat flexible steel straps that are sewn into the fabric top. Some extend down from the support rods to above the doors. Plus a few on each side and rear of the roof. I wonder if a new top has them already sewn in, or if I have to do it? :o ?

Vin-tin 07-17-2017 02:46 PM

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One quick question. I noticed that, originally, many of the cloth covered cardboard interior panels had tacks through the cardboard, but not the cloth. How'd they do that without damaging the cloth?

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...1&d=1500234781

Vin-tin 07-17-2017 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by d. (Post 1500246)
go super careful with removing the trim strip at the bottom of the fabric top. Yours seems to be in very good condition and this trim strip is not reproduced. proceed with caution, you have an irreplaceable unique part.

How is it removed at the door jamb? It's tucked down behind the metal tab at the latch pocket. Do I carefully pry it out, or ???

Vin-tin 07-19-2017 02:13 PM

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Many questions, but not many answers. Everyone must be on vacation :D.
No problem, as i'm answering most of my own questions as i'm going along.

I figured out how to get the belt-line trim molding off. It's easy with the right tools. Took me about an hour and with no damage to the molding or the car body. The molding looks perfect. No rust, cracks, or dents.

Synchro909 07-19-2017 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Vin-tin (Post 1500699)
One quick question. I noticed that, originally, many of the cloth covered cardboard interior panels had tacks through the cardboard, but not the cloth. How'd they do that without damaging the cloth?

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...1&d=1500234781

I tried to answer this a while ago but FB wouldn't allow it. I'll send a PM. Too much typing to do it all again.

Vin-tin 08-12-2017 07:55 PM

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I've been busy removing rivets. This is how she looked yesterday. She's completely apart now, down to her sub rails and cross members.


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