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37 Coupe 03-22-2019 02:57 PM

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I have an old Bosch coil on my Model a '31 that I know works so I planned on reusing it.Today I finally got around to reinstalling the popout switch and new wiring.Problem is on double checking my coil ,wiring schematic and Les Andrews book I notice the coil does not show which post is positive and negative,no + or - nothing. So should I go ahead and buy a coil that is probably going to be China made or this: does it matter which post or terminal I declare positive if I put correct connections on one side and correct on opposite side? Or like I said by a new coil? I also installed the NuRex temperature gauge on the bottom of the gauge panel with the mounting fixture that fits in two bottom holes and gauge is loose in the bracket.What needs to be done tape gauge body to make a fit? Just seems like evry step is an issue nothing ever easy.

100IH 03-22-2019 03:28 PM

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Even the original coils usually don't have marking. Simple way around is get the ignition polarity indicator tool that everyone sells. Start the engine, look at the light and you have the answer.

denniskliesen 03-22-2019 03:44 PM

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This is what 100IH is talking about. Read page 390 in the Service Bulletins. Ford changed the wires which placed the ammeter in the ignition circuit. Just to not confuse the Nu Rex polarity tester takes the guess work out of it. You can also hold the tip of a pencil between the spark plug wire and the sparkplug to see which side of the pencil the spark occurs.

Railcarmover 03-22-2019 05:40 PM

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Bosch? good coil,if it has a number 15 on one of the tabs thats the hot side.

Badpuppy 03-22-2019 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Railcarmover (Post 1739145)
Bosch? good coil,if it has a number 15 on one of the tabs thats the hot side.

How do you define "hot" - positive or negative?

Um, Dennis, pencils are SHOCKINGLY cheaper!

zzlegend 03-22-2019 06:55 PM

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It will run either way hooked up. But use the tool,,,,it wont lie.
In my opinion, pencils suck. Dennis has it right. I have 2 of those in my tool boxes'
Just remember,,,,,you can lead a horse to water,,,,,but a pencil must be lead,,,,,,:eek:

Charlie Stephens 03-22-2019 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by zzlegend (Post 1739182)
It will run either way hooked up. But use the tool,,,,it wont lie.
In my opinion, pencils suck. Dennis has it right. I have 2 of those in my tool boxes'
Just remember,,,,,you can lead a horse to water,,,,,but a pencil must be lead,,,,,,:eek:

I want to add to your comment: It will run if connected the wrong way, just not as good.

Charlie Stephens

noboD 03-22-2019 07:02 PM

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If it's Bosch it was probably stolen from a VW. And like Railcarmover says 15 goes to the points. With a generator electricity moves from + to - to get to ground which the points are just that.

37 Coupe 03-22-2019 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by noboD (Post 1739189)
If it's Bosch it was probably stolen from a VW. And like Railcarmover says 15 goes to the points. With a generator electricity moves from + to - to get to ground which the points are just that.

It is marked American Bosch.

zzlegend 03-22-2019 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlie Stephens (Post 1739188)
I want to add to your comment: It will run if connected the wrong way, just not as good.

Charlie Stephens

Yes Charlie. I should have stated that. Thanks.
As for those Bosch coils, i am running two of those on my roadsters. Great coils.

daveymc29 03-22-2019 07:33 PM

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You can lead a horse to drink but you can't make him water?

zzlegend 03-22-2019 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by daveymc29 (Post 1739217)
you can lead a horse to drink but you can't make him water?

:d:d:d:d:d:d:d:d

Tom Endy 03-22-2019 09:34 PM

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The pencil trick has been around for ages. High school auto shop teachers loved to demonstrate this to the class, then hand the pencil to the class comedian and have him try it.


Years ago when the tool came on the market I bought one and one day at a club event we checked about 20 cars and found about half were backwards. The owners hadn't noticed the difference.


Tom Endy

Railcarmover 03-22-2019 11:10 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/M3Bdk6v.jpg

the best inverted 12v coil known to man..see the 15? thats where the hot wire goes,other side goes to the points..

johnbuckley 03-23-2019 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Endy (Post 1739252)
Years ago when the tool came on the market I bought one and one day at a club event we checked about 20 cars and found about half were backwards. The owners hadn't noticed the difference.
Tom Endy

Out of interest Tom ,Did they notice any improvement once connected correctly?

Bruce of MN 03-23-2019 05:15 AM

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Pencil details:

http://www.chicagolandmgclub.com/tec...neral/574.html


Although, if the MG boys are referring to Lucas, caveat emptor!!

Railcarmover 03-23-2019 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Bruce of MN (Post 1739295)
Pencil details:

http://www.chicagolandmgclub.com/tec...neral/574.html


Although, if the MG boys are referring to Lucas, caveat emptor!!

Lucas,the Prince of Darkness..had a Triumph Trophy,at night you could light a smoke off the zener diode.On the other hand,German Bosch makes superior components,if youre not into fine point their coil cant be beat,was engineered to run inverted too..

Dick Steinkamp 03-23-2019 10:11 AM

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Posted in error. My bad.

37 Coupe 03-23-2019 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Railcarmover (Post 1739272)
https://i.imgur.com/M3Bdk6v.jpg

the best inverted 12v coil known to man..see the 15? thats where the hot wire goes,other side goes to the points..

I didn't realize that you meant a much newer coil for the #15.This is the American Bosch coil I already had on the firewall and it did run on this. I running new wires and just questioned the previous hookup.

jrelliott 03-23-2019 10:38 AM

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Electrons move from - to +. Electricity does not flow only electrons. Voltage is the force that drives the electrons. Amp meters measure the amount of electrons that flow past a point.


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