Overdrive lockout cable on a '51 Ford Thanks to "Swedish Steel", I think I have a place to install the overdrive transmission in my '51 Ford. I want to get as much done as possible before I tie up his shop. Today, I installed the mounting bracket for the "lockout" cable on the bottom of the dash (not an insignificant task). Tomorrow, I want to install the cable itself. There seems to be a blank grommet on the firewall under the hood hinge that looks like the place the cable should come through, but it seems too high up). Also, I have a bracket labeled "O/D Cable to Steering Column Bracket". I don't know how that mounts either. Can someone post a picture of the under-hood routing of the O/D lockout cable on a '51 Ford? (I believe a '49 or '50 should be the same.)
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Re: Overdrive lockout cable on a '51 Ford I can do this toward the end of the week if no one else posts, wont be able to get to my car until then
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Re: Overdrive lockout cable on a '51 Ford Thanks, I would appreciate it.
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Re: Overdrive lockout cable on a '51 Ford I had a whole collection of under hood pictures..........and I just discovered half are dead. Only got one that shows, (I think), the cable at all:
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Re: Overdrive lockout cable on a '51 Ford The clip has a hole and clip portion for the cable. Yje hole goes on the bolt that secures the clamp. On my 49 I had to remove a knockout in the firewall to install the cable.
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Re: Overdrive lockout cable on a '51 Ford Thanks guys. I think I have the top part figured out. My car has a rubber plug with no holes instead of a knockout in the firewall ( I have the new grommet with the hole), but I think that's the same one. Frank, thanks for the info. I must be slow this morning so I'll have to ask about "the bolt that secures the clamp"; what clamp? "Emmit51" - I'm still a little unclear about the lower parts, so I would appreciate some pictures when you find the time.
I also have what appears to be a clamp, the attaches to one of the transmission side cover bolts,or something else else underneath the car; anyone familiar with this? |
Re: Overdrive lockout cable on a '51 Ford I'll be at my car on friday, so I can take some pictures then. Car is on jackstands, so shouldn't be a problem to get pics underneath as well. Happy to post here, but if you'd like higher res pics as well, feel free to PM your email and I can send to you.
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Re: Overdrive lockout cable on a '51 Ford Tried to take a picture for you. Where clip is located it is thought to get a good picture.
Clip that Frank talked about is a 3 fingered clip that holds the lockout cable and it is fastened to the what i will call the “u” bolt that fasteners the steering column tube to the steering box. Clip is such that it stands upright and the cable slips between the three fingers of the spring steel clip. From there I used standard frame clips the route the cable to the transmission. I will make some calls to see if I can locate a clip for you. Hope this helps, To, |
Re: Overdrive lockout cable on a '51 Ford Tubman
MAC’s has the clip listed part# 49-19544-2. $5.95 Hope this helps, Tom |
Re: Overdrive lockout cable on a '51 Ford "Jersey Devil" - Don't bother trying to find the clips as I believe I have them all. I just need to know where they go. I parted out a '50 about 30 years ago and made sure I saved all the clips, etc. The kick-down switch had a broken terminal and the wiring harness was toast, but I believe I got everything else. I was able to source the switch and Harness, so once I get this sorted out, I should be ready to go.
What I could use is a wiring diagram showing ALL of the color-coding on the wiring harness. The generic ones I have been able to find on the internet don't have the color codes at all, and the one in the '49-'51 shop manual only shows about half of them. When I get this done, I will be looking for a 4.11 "chunk". |
Re: Overdrive lockout cable on a '51 Ford Did my description as to where it goes provide any help. It bolts to the collar where the steering column goes into the steering box. That location provides good sweeping curve in the cable, normal frame clips from there
Think I have wiring diagram if so I will get it to you. Tom |
Re: Overdrive lockout cable on a '51 Ford The clip attaches to the side cover, I forget which bolt think the top back one. I usually get the cable secured to the arm with the arm off the transmission then just bolt it to the transmission. Not sure how much room you have to attach the cable after.
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Re: Overdrive lockout cable on a '51 Ford Hi Frank
I thought the original question was the location of the clip on the steering box. That is what I was referring too. Hope all is well, Tom |
Re: Overdrive lockout cable on a '51 Ford Actually the original question should have been "Where do any of the clips go". I am installing an O/D in a non-OD car.
Lots of good information on this thread. |
Re: Overdrive lockout cable on a '51 Ford 2 Attachment(s)
Here are a couple of pictures of what I have. The first one is the three clips I have for the cable. The one on the left, I believe, goes on the steering column. The second goes on the top rear transmission side cover bolt (on one of my transmissions, that bolt is the only one loose and appears to have been removed at one time). The one on the left looks to fasten the cable to the top of the driver's side air duct. Can anyone confirm this?
The second picture is something that came with the (Chinese made) overdrive lockout cable assembly. The round piece seems to fit over the end of the cable. The "Y" shaped piece seems to be a "staking" tool for the round part. Does anyone know how this works? |
Re: Overdrive lockout cable on a '51 Ford 2 Attachment(s)
Tubman, here ya go. Interior. The cable goes to the engine bay to the top and left of the drivers vent.
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Re: Overdrive lockout cable on a '51 Ford 6 Attachment(s)
And here’s the engine bay. Cable comes in through a rubber grommet above the vent. Then Tied to the fender “tray” with a clip. Then another clip on the base of the steering column. Then (under the car) through an eye bolted to the tranny. After that, clamped to the o/d unit.
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Re: Overdrive lockout cable on a '51 Ford Emmit,
Thanks for the pictures. They are just what I needed. Some day, maybe I can do you a favor. I don't have the bracket that goes on the bellhousing, but I think I can make one if I can't find one. Tubman. |
Re: Overdrive lockout cable on a '51 Ford No worries! I’ve already needed, and received, help a few times in the short time i’ve been on the barn. Glad to help someone else for a change
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Re: Overdrive lockout cable on a '51 Ford 1 Attachment(s)
The cable clamp on mine is on the top mounting bolt of the solenoid.
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Re: Overdrive lockout cable on a '51 Ford Well, it looks like I have (or can make) everything I need except except the way the cable attaches to the overdrive lockout lever on the transmission. Emmit, if you are still with your car, could you get a picture of that? The sleeve shown looks like a part of it, but I don't have any idea what goes through the lever itself.
Any help will be appreciated. |
Re: Overdrive lockout cable on a '51 Ford Greg, That makes a lot of sense, Any chance of getting a close up of that area?
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Re: Overdrive lockout cable on a '51 Ford Mine is a bolt with a cross drilled hole.
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Re: Overdrive lockout cable on a '51 Ford 1 Attachment(s)
Here is what i could get a photo of. As Greg said, looks like the cable is attached near the top of the solenoid at left in the photo, and the central wire can be seen attached to the lock out level toward the right. Sorry, hard to get a photo above the solenoid when it is in the car
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Re: Overdrive lockout cable on a '51 Ford That was my problem, I couldn't get under the car. FYI I had to use a ball peen hammer to make clearance for the lever.
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Re: Overdrive lockout cable on a '51 Ford Tubman are you installing a 51 trans? 49 and 50 use the narrow mount and is about 1-1/2" back towards the tail. I have a 51 trans in mine and had to weld to the 51 mount to use it in the 50.
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Re: Overdrive lockout cable on a '51 Ford I would take measurements from the center of the tunnel to the center of the output shaft and output shaft to the frame just to be safe. Once I figured out I had a 51 od trans and needed to make a mount I had to put my stock trans back in to get the measurements.
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Re: Overdrive lockout cable on a '51 Ford I have two '51 transmissions and one '50 transmission, so I am well aware of the differences. It's pretty obvious when you can see them side by side.
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Re: Overdrive lockout cable on a '51 Ford Good deal, I just didn’t want you to have to go through what I did, I thought I could simply turn the mount around and it would fit, I was wrong. I had to put the stock 3 speed back in to get the ride height to make the mount for the 51 trans with a 50 cross member.
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