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George Miller 01-13-2011 01:58 PM

5 Main bearing Model A block
 

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Here is a picture of the junk block that I put 5 mains in for the cam and crank.
This is to go with the head that I made last summer.

BRENT in 10-uh-C 01-13-2011 02:06 PM

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Looking good! Did you make your main webs, --or are these some that Dan Price made up a few years ago?


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kelley's restoration 01-13-2011 02:07 PM

Re: 5 Main bearing Model A block
 

so why is it junk
or...
is this just a proto type so you can figure out what you will need to do to a good block to make it work without messing up a good block
what kind of steel are you using for the inserts (extra mains)
tk

kelley's restoration 01-13-2011 02:08 PM

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also what crank are you using
tk

George Miller 01-13-2011 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BRENT in 10-uh-C (Post 142638)
Looking good! Did you make your main webs, --or are these some that Dan Price made up a few years ago?

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No I made my own.

d.j. moordigian 01-13-2011 02:22 PM

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George,

Your taxing my head, Chevy ll crank, Chevy rear main. Built those for midgets back
in the 70's. Have a friend doing an A for land speed, 5 main AL girdle , one piece, custom crank. Send more photos!

Dudley

UH...I take that back, it's a V/8 crank!

Larry Brumfield 01-13-2011 02:23 PM

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And to think I've seen you call yourself an Ol' Country Boy .....

That's outstanding work, George. Good job!

George Miller 01-13-2011 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by kelley's restoration (Post 142639)
so why is it junk
or...
is this just a proto type so you can figure out what you will need to do to a good block to make it work without messing up a good block
what kind of steel are you using for the inserts (extra mains)
tk

The lifter guides are broken, I will be redoing them any way. I would rather save the good blocks, some one might need them for a stock engine down the road.

George Miller 01-13-2011 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kelley's restoration (Post 142641)
also what crank are you using
tk

Not sure what crank and cam at this time. It will be some kind of chev, I think.

George Miller 01-13-2011 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Larry Brumfield (Post 142650)
And to think I've seen you call yourself an Ol' Country Boy .....

That's outstanding work, George. Good job!

Well I was born in the country, USA MICH.

James Rogers 01-13-2011 03:04 PM

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George, someday I am gonna have to come down there and bench race some with you.

Kohnke Rebabbitting 01-13-2011 03:13 PM

Re: 5 Main bearing Model A block
 

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Originally Posted by George Miller (Post 142634)
Here is a picture of the junk block that I put 5 mains in for the cam and crank.
This is to go with the head that I made last summer.


When you get mine done, call me. Herm.

MrTube 01-13-2011 03:15 PM

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George : What kind of power are you hoping to get out of this engine when all is said and done?

George Miller 01-13-2011 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MrTube (Post 142687)
George : What kind of power are you hoping to get out of this engine when all is said and done?

I would like 1 hp per cubic inch. They done that many years ago, so I should be able to do it now.

BRENT in 10-uh-C 01-13-2011 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by George Miller (Post 142660)
The lifter guides are broken, I will be redoing them any way. I would rather save the good blocks, some one my need them for a stock engine down the road.

http://model-a-ford.com/ROFL.gif Good reason there George!!



Why I had asked was Dan Price had cast up some saddles a few years ago and still had a couple of sets the last I checked. I almost bought a set until I found a 5-main girdle to use.

Another crank to consider is the Hercules crank out of a forklift engine. I think the bore spacing was pretty much the same and it gave a ¼"(??) stroke. Are you gonna make your own billet rods?


As far as getting 1 hp per cu in, Hudson pretty much was doing that with their 7X Flathead. I'd say that 1.25 --or even 1.5 hp per cu inch is very do-able with your combination!

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George Miller 01-13-2011 03:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by James Rogers (Post 142676)
George, someday I am gonna have to come down there and bench race some with you.

Come on down. Do you still go to old maggie valley meet in the fall. We could meet there.

George Miller 01-13-2011 03:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BRENT in 10-uh-C (Post 142715)
http://model-a-ford.com/ROFL.gif Good reason there George!!



Why I had asked was Dan Price had cast up some saddles a few years ago and still had a couple of sets the last I checked. I almost bought a set until I found a 5-main girdle to use.

Another crank to consider is the Hercules crank out of a forklift engine. I think the bore spacing was pretty much the same and it gave a ¼"(??) stroke. Are you gonna make your own billet rods?

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I will probably make my rods out of 7075. I have made some in the past.

Flathead 01-13-2011 05:19 PM

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This is a very interesting project! I like your style, dig in and do it! How do you plan to anchor those extra main bulkheads? They look welded in, will that be it? Are you going for a big stroke? Thanks for sharing this with everyone on the Barn.

George Miller 01-13-2011 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Flathead (Post 142773)
This is a very interesting project! I like your style, dig in and do it! How do you plan to anchor those extra main bulkheads? They look welded in, will that be it? Are you going for a big stroke? Thanks for sharing this with everyone on the Barn.

Yes they are weld in also will be pinned, and the main studs go all the way through the block just like the original, except they will be studs.
No going for a shorter stroke to reduce piston speed. Will increase the engine speed to make up for the loss of stroke.

George Miller 01-13-2011 07:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kohnke Rebabbitting (Post 142684)
When you get mine done, call me. Herm.

Did you not receive it this week, is the check in the mail.:p


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