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1930deluxe 12-05-2018 12:02 PM

Rear Seat
 

1930 Tudor sedan rear seat question. What is missing the seat I have does not have brackets to attach the seat to the body?

Dick Steinkamp 12-05-2018 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 1930deluxe (Post 1702467)
1930 Tudor sedan rear seat question. What is missing the seat I have does not have brackets to attach the seat to the body?

You're missing the brackets. :D

Seriously, if you can post a picture of what you have, it would help.

The bottom cushion is not attached to the body. It slides in under the back cushion and is held in tension by the lower platform.

The upper cushion has 2 metal tabs on the wood frame that slide into slits in the structure supporting the rear panel.

Here are the tabs...

https://modelastore.com/image/cache/...13-600x800.jpg

https://modelastore.com/index.php?ro...&category_id=0

jak 12-05-2018 03:43 PM

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28-29 ( https://www.brattons.com/28-29-tudor...hion-clip.html )is different than 30-31 ( https://www.brattons.com/30-31-tudor...hion-clip.html )

Dick Steinkamp 12-05-2018 05:04 PM

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Good catch jak. Thanks!

vern hodgson 12-05-2018 10:10 PM

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The lower seat cushion has two metal brackets that are attached to the front of the seat cushion wood fame and seat in just behind the seat riser thus preventing the cushion from sliding forward

1930deluxe 12-06-2018 01:11 PM

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I will take a photo with a different camera and post it. For some reason it will not up load the picture from my cell phone. I will post one tonight.

1930deluxe 12-06-2018 04:17 PM

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I have attached photos of the seat that I have. I am not sure it is a complete seat. I think there should be a wood frame on the rear of the springs. I was told it is out of a 1928 tudor sedan.

midgetracer 12-07-2018 01:55 AM

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That one looks just like the one i just upholstered from my 29 Tudor.

1930deluxe 12-07-2018 08:44 AM

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How does the back cushion attach to the rear of the vehicle with no wood to attach the bracket? Could you send a picture of yours?

midgetracer 12-07-2018 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by 1930deluxe (Post 1703077)
How does the back cushion attach to the rear of the vehicle with no wood to attach the bracket? Could you send a picture of yours?

There is two hooks on the inside of the body and the top of the spring wires clip into these hooks. I will try to get a photo later.

Dick Steinkamp 12-07-2018 11:05 AM

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Here is the backrest wood that all our vendors sell for 28-31 Model A Tudors...

https://modelastore.com/image/cache/...97-600x800.jpg

Here's the picture of a Model A Tudor rear seat I posted on the OP's other thread on the same subject...

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8305/...747b66c9_c.jpg

Here's the seat back the OP has...

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...5&d=1544130765

They look different to me. The upholstery on the OP's covers some of the wood which makes identifying it tough, but the outside 2 vertical wood pieces on the top one should show on the bottom one and they don't.

I'd try a test fit in the Tudor. I could be wrong, or someone may have modified another seat to fit in a Tudor.

vern hodgson 12-07-2018 11:07 AM

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I agree, does not look right.

Tacoma Bob 12-07-2018 11:25 AM

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Interesting. I'm stumped. When I redid my Tudor this time last year the frame is identical to what Dick has posted. I don't recall ever seeing the "loop" retainers or the taper on the slats. Is it possible this is a Canadian built car. There were differences as well all know.

1930deluxe 12-07-2018 11:59 AM

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The seat I have does not have any wood at the top just open spring frame and the material is hog ringed to the spring framing. So if this was an early 1928 seat they may have been different than the 30-31? Midgetracer said his seat looks just like mine.

TZBrown 12-07-2018 12:13 PM

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According to the Clastique's PDF for Tudor page 4 some Tudors did have this frame
https://www.classtiqueupholstery.com...o_31_Tudor.pdf

Not sure of the mountings though, maybe give them a call

Tacoma Bob 12-07-2018 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 1930deluxe (Post 1703184)
The seat I have does not have any wood at the top just open spring frame and the material is hog ringed to the spring framing. So if this was an early 1928 seat they may have been different than the 30-31? Midgetracer said his seat looks just like mine.

Dang! someone has the answer. Just checked some of my books with no luck. I'm still thinkin Canadian or perhaps Phaeton rear seat backrest. Can't wait to hear more from Midgetracer.

Dick Steinkamp 12-07-2018 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TZBrown (Post 1703191)
According to the Clastique's PDF for Tudor page 4 some Tudors did have this frame
https://www.classtiqueupholstery.com...o_31_Tudor.pdf

Not sure of the mountings though, maybe give them a call

That could be it. Great research!

The next step would be a test fit.

Tacoma Bob 12-07-2018 12:31 PM

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Problem solved. Thanks TZ.

midgetracer 12-07-2018 06:37 PM

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Attached are the pictures I promised. My car is a 29 Tudor made in the Twin Cities. It is always been together and I am sure the wood and hooks are original. Hooks are as pictured earlier and are screwed to the wood below the window sides.

midgetracer 12-07-2018 06:41 PM

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The wire that the upholstery is hog ringed to slides over the hooks. I have a second Tudor that has the same wood. NO top wood, only the wood as shown in my pictures.


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