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Colonel 10-14-2018 06:06 PM

Tips to select good Model A wheels
 

I am going to look at a pile of Model A wheels. Besides the overall condition of the metal, the hub, the spokes and the lug nut chamfer what other things can I do to pick good straight wheels. I won't have access to any special equipment to spin the wheels for example. It's a cash and carry deal - no return policy. All help appreciated.

Dennis Pereira 10-14-2018 06:18 PM

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Roll slowly on a hard surface like concrete they will wiggle and hop if bent .

redmodelt 10-14-2018 08:15 PM

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28/29 beads rotted out or full of rust.

Charlie Stephens 10-14-2018 09:53 PM

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If I was in the market for wheels I would make something to spin them. There is a lot of bent wheels out there.

Charlie Stephens

Rich in Tucson 10-14-2018 10:38 PM

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Jack up a front wheel, remove it. Mount a prospective wheel. Place gauges to show runout on front of rim and on outside of rim. For gauges all you need are rods mounted in a base so that you can place one rod on the front side of the rim and one on the outer side. The rods ought to meet the wheel at the mid-height of the rim at whatever height you have it above the ground or floor. I have a lead brick that makes a good base but anything heavy will work.

Bob-A 10-15-2018 06:09 PM

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The last time I bought some "A" wheels. I took along a rather heavy, but
accurate home-made tool for checking wheel run-out. A Model-A front spindle C-clamped to a metal jack stand. With bearings and a drum properly mounted. Placed the "tool" on a concrete floor and bolted the wheels on using three lug nuts. Very clumsy way of checking a wheel, but tells you what you need to know.;)


Bob-A:D

Synchro909 10-15-2018 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob-A (Post 1685878)
The last time I bought some "A" wheels. I took along a rather heavy, but
accurate home-made tool for checking wheel run-out. A Model-A front spindle C-clamped to a metal jack stand. With bearings and a drum properly mounted. Placed the "tool" on a concrete floor and bolted the wheels on using three lug nuts. Very clumsy way of checking a wheel, but tells you what you need to know.;)


Bob-A:D

I made something similar and use it to balance the wheels. It's not sophisticated (but then, neither am I) but it works. I've been to about 65mph on wheels balanced this way and no sign of vibration. I also use it to check runout.

2manycars 10-15-2018 08:14 PM

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I made a tool to check wheels by welding a ford pickup axel to a plate,and adding a pointer to check wobble and runout.

Lee Mitch 10-15-2018 08:49 PM

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A friend taught me to use a wrench and tap on each spoke. They should sound the same. A broken one will sound very different. Definitely roll them on hard surface as post #2 says. Avoid deep pitting as even with powder coating they can't be covered entirely.

Don Turley 10-15-2018 08:52 PM

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If you have absolutely no tooling to check them, then lay one on a flat surface, then stack another one on top of it. If it rocks on the one below, then one (or both) of them is warped. Try another one until you get two that do not rock. After that, then roll them on a flat surface and watch for wobble. Of course, having a spindle to rotate them on is best, but at least this method will weed out the worst ones.

Ray in La Mesa 10-15-2018 08:57 PM

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RE Lee Mitch: Good tip Lee, sounding the spokes not only tells a broken one but also it tells the tension. Helps you to see if a broken one has been welded as the tension will sing a different note, even if you can't see the weld. All should be the same note,people watching you at a swap meet will either think yo are playing a tune or are crazy.

Afordman31 10-16-2018 09:22 AM

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Carry a lug nut with you to check the bolt holes. If the nut sticks thru on the back side the hole is washed out or starting to wash out. If the nut sticks thru the wheel won't tighten and then you would need to use the washers that venders sell.

Dodge 10-16-2018 12:57 PM

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If they are 28/29 shake them and also listen to them as you roll them to see if there is a bunch of rust inside the bead.

eagle 10-16-2018 01:46 PM

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It all depends on how much is being charged for the wheels. If reasonably priced and you start doing 21 point inspections on them, you might get thrown out on your rear!

Tom Wesenberg 10-16-2018 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by eagle (Post 1686154)
It all depends on how much is being charged for the wheels. If reasonably priced and you start doing 21 point inspections on them, you might get thrown out on your rear!

Yep!
And even "junk" wheels are still good for making chairs or yard art. I've seen nice chairs made from junk wheels, and that's why I have saved a few that aren't good for a car.

eagle 10-16-2018 06:57 PM

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