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Old Henry 09-11-2019 05:49 PM

Grill screen air flow
 

I have always discouraged the use of screens of any kind in front of the grill because it reduces air flow to the radiator needed for cooling, especially at very high ambient temperature. But, I've never tested my theory until today.

I bought an anemometer to use on my boat trip on the Columbia River a month ago and used it to measure air flow from a household fan.

First, I measured the speed of the air coming out of the fan with no screen.

https://i1059.photobucket.com/albums...psa2xmsmuv.jpg

It was 8 mph.

Then, I measured the flow through a piece of standard home window/door screen.

https://i1059.photobucket.com/albums...psujfx9gfw.jpg

The house screen reduced the flow in half to 4 mph.

Then I measured the flow through what is called a "pet screen" which looked more open to me than the house screen.

https://i1059.photobucket.com/albums...pskvepolbf.jpg

That screen only allowed .6 mph flow.

Finally, I measured the flow through a genuine Ford grill screen made for my car.

https://i1059.photobucket.com/albums...pskqgzggn7.jpg

It was 6.9 mph, 86% of the full flow.

So, even the very open grill screen made by Ford reduces the air flow to the radiator by 13%.

What that means is that even the Ford grill screen reduces air flow through the radiator the same as if 13% of the radiator was plugged with bugs. That's a lot of bugs. I'll continue to drive without a screen and just brush the bugs off of the radiator once in a while when they pile up.

mfagan 09-11-2019 06:02 PM

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Good to see you back on the barn!

Talkwrench 09-11-2019 06:54 PM

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Plausible.. or busted... as the busters would say ? :D

Joe Immler 09-11-2019 07:32 PM

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Thank you for the research on this. It is good to know. And...welcome back!

cmbrucew 09-11-2019 08:30 PM

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Prof.
Glad to see you back.


Bruce

petehoovie 09-11-2019 08:33 PM

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Interesting. Thanks for that, Craig....

cas3 09-11-2019 08:49 PM

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old henry, thanks for the scientific facts, your experiments are always well done, and welcome here. i'm sure we all miss your travel tales, but your new hobby makes you happy and thats what life is about. welcome back, best wishes, and let us know when the old ford goes out touring again

51504bat 09-11-2019 09:09 PM

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Glad you're back.

flatford8 09-12-2019 01:27 AM

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That air-flow meter blows me away !?!?!?....��.....good to hear from you.... hope all is well... Mark

corvette8n 09-12-2019 07:23 AM

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Craig: thanks for the info, hope to see some more road trip videos in the future.

RalphM 09-12-2019 09:00 AM

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Interesting test results. I do see the screen having a purpose to prevent the occasional rock from damaging the radiator. Pretty much standard equipment driving up the Alcan.

And welcome back to the Barn!

Old Henry 09-12-2019 11:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cas3 (Post 1798116)
old henry, thanks for the scientific facts, your experiments are always well done, and welcome here. i'm sure we all miss your travel tales, but your new hobby makes you happy and thats what life is about. welcome back, best wishes, and let us know when the old ford goes out touring again

Quote:

Originally Posted by corvette8n (Post 1798198)
Craig: thanks for the info, hope to see some more road trip videos in the future.

Since I've driven Old Henry everyplace I ever wanted to drive him, I've shifted my interest to "road trips" in my old 1982 17' Silverline Nantucket ski boat "Sharkie" with the original Mercury Black Max 200 hp outboard motor.

My most recent "road trip" in the boat was 400 miles on the Columbia River from The Dalles to the ocean and back a month ago. What an adventure! The anemometer I used for these tests I bought for that trip to measure the wind we were often up against.

Next week I'll take 4 grandsons to Lake Powel for some sight seeing of that most gorgeous lake.

https://i1059.photobucket.com/albums...psy17pyyah.jpg

https://i1059.photobucket.com/albums...psfkdfugq7.jpg

https://i1059.photobucket.com/albums...psqi1po5hu.jpg

50fordcoupeman 09-12-2019 03:48 PM

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Have boated the Columbia many times. Your 2nd photo looks like the area where the movie "Maverick" was filmed for the river scenes. Glad to hear from you again!!

fortyfords 09-15-2019 08:07 AM

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Henry, I found your information interesting but I use screens in every car I own, Why the screen works for me is because I put the screen next to and on the back side of the grille. In Mo. one has to do something for the bugs, especially the grasshoppers, they are messy. Installing screens this way increases my volume of air coming so the radiator doesn't see a flow restriction in my opinion. My radiators all look like new and I don't have any heating problems. This theory doesn't work as well on a 32 Ford grille shell but it doesn't seem to hurt me any either except in stop and go traffic on the 32's. The one 32 even has a chopped smaller radiator and the engine temp usually runs 185 all the time. Sorry if I'm argumentative but results speak pretty loudly too. Have fun with the boating.

Old Henry 09-15-2019 01:25 PM

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I got suspicious of grill screens on a cross country trip in a full size dodge van many years ago. I bought and installed the screen that went clear across the front of the van. Eventually the van seemed to be running at noticeably higher temperatures than normal. I suspected the screen was reducing air flow so removed it and the engine temperature returned to normal.

Different strokes for different folks.:cool:

mfirth 09-16-2019 06:31 AM

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Hey Prof., is that a Tower of Power Merc. on the transom? Heck, i'd tow the boat with Old Henry...a Ford tow'n a "Merc." ....just say'n. mike

JSeery 09-16-2019 07:43 AM

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I would think it would be obvious that any type of screen in the airflow path would reduce the airflow.

marko39 09-16-2019 09:59 AM

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What actually causes the reduced airflow is the pressure loss across the screen. The finer the screen the higher the pressure loss.

Old Henry 09-16-2019 12:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mfirth (Post 1799487)
Hey Prof., is that a Tower of Power Merc. on the transom? Heck, i'd tow the boat with Old Henry...a Ford tow'n a "Merc." ....just say'n. mike

The outboard motor is the Mercury Black Max V6 200 hp.


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