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cas3 04-11-2020 07:15 PM

what is this steering box?
 

old aftermarket thing on ebay. any one seen one before? https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Cus...Condition=3000

barnfind08 04-11-2020 07:47 PM

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John Kover of V8Shop game made those years ago

skidmarks 04-11-2020 08:07 PM

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Is he still alive? Been a few years since i seen him at Hershey with all of his gold spray painted rebuilt transmissions.
He use to sell a lot on ebay

petehoovie 04-11-2020 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by barnfind08 (Post 1873178)
John Kover of V8Shop game made those years ago

https://i.ebayimg.com/thumbs/images/...-Z/s-l225.webp

Charlie Stephens 04-11-2020 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by cas3 (Post 1873161)
old aftermarket thing on ebay. any one seen one before? https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Cus...Condition=3000

If you are considering buying it check out the archives here and on HAMB. I don't have any personal experience but there is some interesting reading in the archives.

Charlie Stephens

Charlie Stephens 04-11-2020 08:53 PM

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Duplicate post, sorry.

HIGHTOWER611 04-11-2020 08:56 PM

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A good friend had one and it was complete junk. Do yourself a favor and don't buy it.
Brand new and wouldn't set up or steer correctly, skips etc.
He wanted to take it to Hershey and put it through his windshield in front of everybody.

Bob C 04-11-2020 09:03 PM

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Here's a link about the piece of junk. https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...rience.595096/

cas3 04-11-2020 11:31 PM

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i am not a potential bidder, just hadnt seen one before. it seems to be not new news here! thanks for the links

cas3 04-11-2020 11:47 PM

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so...it appears that this is "hot rod john", who i bought a stainless 39 shift lever from 20 years ago which needed the knob that hits the shift forks cut off and re welded to make it work?

skidmarks 04-12-2020 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by cas3 (Post 1873252)
so...it appears that this is "hot rod john", who i bought a stainless 39 shift lever from 20 years ago which needed the knob that hits the shift forks cut off and re welded to make it work?

Ha thats him. He cut a wide path.

He marketed himself as a lasalle transmission expert also.

PeteVS 04-12-2020 06:54 AM

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I wound up buying a kit of new shifter springs and detents for the '37-'39 trans. Never got it installed.

JM 35 Sedan 04-12-2020 07:56 AM

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Unfortunately, before I knew the score on this guy and his steering box, I recommended a friend consider using Hot Rod John's steering box in his '34 pickup that was difficult for him to steer. He bought one from John at Hershey, installed it in his truck, and could not get it to work properly. He finally sent it back for a full refund. I felt like a horses butt for ever suggesting my friend take a look at this. :o :( :eek: :rolleyes:

Ol' Ron 04-12-2020 08:41 AM

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I like to use a 77 Toyota Celica Box. The input shaft is OVER the frame giving allot of clearance to the exhast. Input shaft takes a GM rag joint and the pitman arme is a Ford.. makes for a simple installation. Provides cross ster in a model "A"

deuce5wndw 04-12-2020 09:02 AM

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I thought it was a really good idea that wasn't engineered correctly! F-1 internals in a bolt on box for a 32 what's not to like? I looked at them but thankfully never bought one!

skidmarks 04-12-2020 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by deuce5wndw (Post 1873362)
I thought it was a really good idea that wasn't engineered correctly! F-1 internals in a bolt on box for a 32 what's not to like? I looked at them but thankfully never bought one!

Easier to just use a F1 box and it works! Or if you want cross steer just buy a brand new vega box.

Jay in Mass 04-12-2020 12:08 PM

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The Vega steering box really works well.

deuce5wndw 04-12-2020 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by skidmarks (Post 1873391)
Easier to just use a F1 box and it works! Or if you want cross steer just buy a brand new vega box.

Yep know all that and still think it was a good idea.

flatheadmurre 04-12-2020 03:06 PM

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Itīs like with a lot of repro stuff...a good idea finished to about 80% that just donīt work..
But i like the look...
Anyone disected one...what internals did he use ?

skidmarks 04-12-2020 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by flatheadmurre (Post 1873570)
Itīs like with a lot of repro stuff...a good idea finished to about 80% that just donīt work..
But i like the look...
Anyone disected one...what internals did he use ?

Suppose to be F1 guts which are the same as 37 to 48 cross steer boxes.
I got a model A that was hot rodded in the late 50s and has a 40 Ford cross steer box and a flathead motor. Steers easy . Only issue was when it was done it needed a brace so the frame rail wouldnt twist when steering sitting still.

Really the best is a vega. Size and you can get a brand new one. Just doesnt have a vintage look


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