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philipswanson 11-19-2017 10:50 AM

40 Rear Axle Wheel Bearing Races
 

How do you replace the rear wheel bearing race on the axle? Not the race in the hub but the other one on the axle itself. I noticed some very heavy pitting on one side. I am afraid a new bearing won't last. Can it be done without tearing the whole rear end apart?

Thanks, Phil Swanson

RobR'35 11-19-2017 10:55 AM

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If u use a grinder with a cutting wheel and cut down almost though. Then use a cold chisel with a good hit they usually split.
U can then slide it off.

FritzJr 11-19-2017 11:11 AM

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The original inner race is part of the axle housing itself. The only good repair is to have the housing bearing surface cut on a lathe and a new repair sleeve installed.

deuce_roadster 11-19-2017 11:30 AM

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What Fritzjr said x2. Axle housings have to come off.

tubman 11-19-2017 11:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by philipswanson (Post 1554234)
How do you replace the rear wheel bearing race on the axle? Not the race in the hub but the other one on the axle itself. I noticed some very heavy pitting on one side. I am afraid a new bearing won't last. Can it be done without tearing the whole rear end apart?

Thanks, Phil Swanson

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philipswanson 11-19-2017 11:57 AM

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Can the axle be removed without tearing the whole 3rd member apart?

Russ/40 11-19-2017 12:07 PM

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Terminology ????
Are you talking about the axle "housing" race?

grumppyoldman 11-19-2017 12:12 PM

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If i'm understanding you correctly, the bearing surface is on the housing and not on the axle. If so you have to pull the housings from the third member, have them machined off and install new races. you don't have to pull the complete rear end, if it's a Bango rearend, you didn't specify which rear end you have . Good luck. Al

philipswanson 11-19-2017 03:07 PM

Re: 40 Rear Axle Wheel Bearing Races
 

I have the stock 40 Ford rear in my wagon. I am talking about the inner race that the rear wheel bearing rides on, not the one in the hub but the one on the axle. How can I remove that axle to change the race without tearing the whole rear end apart?

Andy 11-19-2017 03:12 PM

Re: 40 Rear Axle Wheel Bearing Races
 

Welcome to early Fords.
You have to take the whole rear end apart.
The axle housings have to be machined in a big lathe and new races installed.

RobR'35 11-19-2017 03:26 PM

Re: 40 Rear Axle Wheel Bearing Races
 

My apologies.
Original axle housing wheel bearing surfaces left and right from the factory, there are no races to remove.
If wore, each axle housing would need to be taken off the center housing and where the bearing rides would need to be turned down by a machinist to fit a new race.
I had assumed u knew (seen) there were removable races already on your housings.
Sorry for the confusion.

Mart 11-19-2017 04:06 PM

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This is one side of my 40 axle in my Willson lathe. It shows the original bearing material being machined off.

https://youtu.be/sk42aYMYKyk

Mart.

RobR'35 11-19-2017 04:09 PM

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A bit to add about these replacable race/sleeves.
I learned from John Connelly he sells a sleeve made of
E-52100 bearing steel that its hard all the way through and is O.D and I.D ground.
The axle housing gets less machined off. The I.D of his
race/sleeve is 1.813.
I've learned the sleeves we buy elsewhere are just case hardend and have a smaller I.D.
Something to consider if we need to have this sort of machining done. Why take more material off that area
if we don't need to.

Lawrie 11-19-2017 04:35 PM

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Rob would you have a contact forJohn Connelly?
Lawrie

RobR'35 11-19-2017 04:42 PM

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[email protected]
951-719-4077

tubman 11-19-2017 05:24 PM

Re: 40 Rear Axle Wheel Bearing Races
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by philipswanson (Post 1554377)
I have the stock 40 Ford rear in my wagon. I am talking about the inner race that the rear wheel bearing rides on, not the one in the hub but the one on the axle. How can I remove that axle to change the race without tearing the whole rear end apart?

I think if this was changed to read "the one on the axle housing", it would have been clear from the start.

cas3 11-19-2017 06:42 PM

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you probably could just remove the outer bells in the car, but it would be no fun at all. much better to remove the whole rear so you can work on it in a comfortable place and its a good time to inspect the whole set up and replace seals. you would get off cheap if its all in good shape, good luck!

19Fordy 11-20-2017 02:16 PM

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Mart,
Nice job. I never saw a slant bed lathe before. Watching metal chips roll of a machine tool is a beautiful thing. It's like a little miracle. Excellent video. Wish you were my next door neighbor. Oh, check out this slant bed lathe for sale.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/YOU-JI-YH-5...8aAqpTEALw_wcB

philipswanson 11-20-2017 02:27 PM

Re: 40 Rear Axle Wheel Bearing Races
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy (Post 1554380)
Welcome to early Fords.
You have to take the whole rear end apart.
The axle housings have to be machined in a big lathe and new races installed.

If I had to do all that, I would throw it away and install a Ford 9".

Thanks Phil Swanson

philipswanson 11-20-2017 02:32 PM

Re: 40 Rear Axle Wheel Bearing Races
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by tubman (Post 1554441)
I think if this was changed to read "the one on the axle housing", it would have been clear from the start.

I did say the one on the axle and not the one on the hub. Is that so hard to follow??? Dah!


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