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barrelnose 11-16-2019 06:41 AM

B model distributor question
 

Does the B model distributor/head use the same bolt on the side of the head to keep it held down?
I am trying to remove the distributor but there is no bolt in the side hole and it appears to be a blind hole. The Distributor is rusted badly and that may make it hard to remove,but this either has a broken bolt in the hole(itís about a 1/4Ē deep) or it is a blind hole. I touched the bottom of the hole with a 5/16Ē drill and a appears to be soft like cast iron,not a broken bolt.
Any clues please.

Bob Bidonde 11-16-2019 08:26 AM

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The distributor lock bolt is the same 1928 - 1934.

Joe K 11-16-2019 09:10 AM

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PB Blaster is your friend. So is vibration - tap gently and repeatedly.

I'm trying to buy a Model B distributor right now on ebay and the relative scarcity compared to Model A units is telling - but not insurmountable.

But more importantly one has to pursue this "gently" lest one break off the distributor at its base leaving the mount still in the head.

You might try removing the entire head. Another avenue would be to remove the drive gear from the valve chamber, invert the engine, and put PB Blaster in there and let gravity do its thing. Did I mention vibration?

Joe K

barrelnose 11-16-2019 07:50 PM

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Thanks for the replies, I got the distributor out last night and it isn’t the same as the A.
It wasn’t a blind hole,but the distributor doesn’t have the groove machined in it for the lock bolt either. It has a clamp arrangement with a pinch bolt at the base of the distributor housing which must be used for locking it in position.

J Franklin 11-16-2019 08:42 PM

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Let us see what the thing looks like.

Charlie Stephens 11-16-2019 08:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by barrelnose (Post 1821971)
Thanks for the replies, I got the distributor out last night and it isnít the same as the A.
It wasnít a blind hole,but the distributor doesnít have the groove machined in it for the lock bolt either. It has a clamp arrangement with a pinch bolt at the base of the distributor housing which must be used for locking it in position.

Sounds funny, post a picture.

Charlie Stephens

Bob C 11-16-2019 09:42 PM

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This is a B distributor.

barrelnose 11-16-2019 10:59 PM

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Attachment 412880

Attachment 412881

As you can see,no groove for the keeper but the body is also a lot different,could be an English distributor?

J Franklin 11-16-2019 11:09 PM

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It could be a local aftermarket or custom built to fit.

Bob Bidonde 11-17-2019 08:43 AM

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I do not believe this to be a 1932-1934 Ford distributor.
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...0&d=1573963044

Bob C 11-17-2019 11:44 AM

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I think it's for a Perfect or Popular. https://www.smallfordspares.co.uk/ca...res-electrical


Bob

john charlton 11-17-2019 02:29 PM

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This is a late English distributor for the Anglia,Prefect etc etc . It is the later "tall" version the earlier one is more like a "B" . Later engines went to a chain driven camshaft so the centrifugal advance was opposite . The rotor arm should have an arrow on it to show which rotation it is set for . This is a very good unit and drops right into an A or B engine but you must make a locating groove in the stalk .

John in cool dark Suffolk County England .

Russ/40 11-17-2019 07:12 PM

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What does the advance mechanism look like?

31a 11-17-2019 08:55 PM

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Does the B dist have a automatic advance?

RUNNERBUN 11-17-2019 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 31a (Post 1822380)
Does the B dist have a automatic advance?

Yes, it does.

GRutter 11-17-2019 10:30 PM

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Is it just camera angle? That distributor shaft appears to be badly off-center

RUNNERBUN 11-18-2019 12:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ/40 (Post 1822349)
What does the advance mechanism look like?

This youtube video explains it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaX1-1igeWM
You can ignore the vacuum advance portion of the video as it does not apply to the Model A

quickchange 11-18-2019 01:55 AM

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John is on the money exactly right , only the early gear driven cam can be used , I have a number of them, inside just like the B model , We have a few restored B ones here if anyone needs one ,

barrelnose 11-18-2019 03:59 AM

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Cheers for the replies,I figured it wasn’t a B model,I haven’t actually seen one in the flesh but was sure it would have the groove for the keeper if it was.
I wish I knew back when I was a young fella in NZ about the English fords,they were everywhere and I would of rounded up a few also.
And no,the shaft isn’t off centre,it’s bent. This one is junk really,to far gone.

Russ/40 11-18-2019 11:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RUNNERBUN (Post 1822439)
This youtube video explains it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaX1-1igeWM
You can ignore the vacuum advance portion of the video as it does not apply to the Model A

I understand fully the concept of early and late ignition. Specifically I was hoping someone would post a photo of the advance hardware below the upper plate. There seems to be little room for much under there.


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