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mgtf1500 10-16-2019 11:30 PM

Car has Zero Electric
 

I started my 31 A Sunday after not being ran in a month. No problem. I came back Tuesday to take a tour and when I tried to start the car NOTHING. No click, no lights, no horn. The fuse on the starter was replaced as a first check, but no results. What can be wrong??? The battery was on a tender and it showed full charge.

J Franklin 10-16-2019 11:46 PM

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Check the battery cables for good, solid, clean connections.

Bill G 10-17-2019 12:07 AM

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Do you have a battery cut-off switch that needs to be turned back on? Sounds too simple, but I have been fooled by the silliest stuff. :D

marty in Ohio 10-17-2019 07:15 AM

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I agree with J Franklin. Several years ago I drove my "A" to church and when I came out nothing would work. I was under the hood in my Sunday clothes and my red face when an old timer came and looked and said "better tighten up those battery cables, boy." I tapped the cables with the end of the crank and drove it home.
Sometimes the old folks have the best advice.
Marty

SDJason 10-17-2019 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by marty in Ohio (Post 1810526)
I agree with J Franklin. Several years ago I drove my "A" to church and when I came out nothing would work. I was under the hood in my Sunday clothes and my red face when an old timer came and looked and said "better tighten up those battery cables, boy." I tapped the cables with the end of the crank and drove it home.
Sometimes the old folks have the best advice.
Marty


Yup - had a nearly identical experience about six years ago - I had brought my car to a local "classic car night" at a nearby beach town (and purposely parked next to another Model A).


Come time to leave - I had the same experience as Marty. Thankfully, within a few minutes the owner of the Cabriolet wandered up, saw I was having problems and knew exactly what to do. He lifted the floorboard, gave the battery posts a couple of whacks with a wrench, and problem solved. In my case, the cables seemed tight - but somehow giving them a few hard knocks was exactly what was needed. I think the fellow was named "Jimmy King", but my memory could be off on that.

johnbuckley 10-17-2019 10:59 AM

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add to above (as a long shot) duff battery - yes I' have had one that was OK, then suddenly would hold no charge at all.

Patrick L. 10-17-2019 11:26 AM

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When you mention NOTHING, I have to wonder what that means. Nothing to me means the starter wasn't working either.
That also leads me to the battery connections, all the connections especially the frame ground. Cleaning terminals means removing the ends and cleaning/brushing them as well as the terminals.

The Master Cylinder 10-17-2019 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Magicbox51 (Post 1810491)
Do you have a battery cut-off switch that needs to be turned back on? Sounds too simple, but I have been fooled by the silliest stuff. :D

I have done that!! Went so far as to try to jump start. Needless to say I was late for the start of the tour. In my MODERN!! :p:p

Purdy Swoft 10-18-2019 12:17 PM

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I wouldn't beat on the battery cable ends . Its fairly easy to knock the battery post loose. I haven't knocked a battery post loose , but did see the old brother in law do exactly that . If nothin electrical works , I would remove the cable ends from the battery post and clean and tighten both .

A couple times over the years I've had an experience when the starter would still spin but nothing else would work . To get the model A running again I removed all of the wires from the terminal box .I scuffed the wire ends with sand paper until shiney and all was well .

Jacksonlll 10-18-2019 12:31 PM

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Don’t be fooled by a bad joint between the cable wires and the connector on the end. This is a crimped joint and corrosion in there can drive you crazy trying to find the problem.

Russ/40 10-18-2019 12:38 PM

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The functions of battery tenders can be misleading. They do their best at maintaining battery voltage, but cannot maintain battery load capacity. A load test will sort that out.

Purdy Swoft 10-18-2019 12:46 PM

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I agree completely with post number ten . Usually if the cable connections and cable wires aren't cleaned and tightened , the next time an attempt to start the engine , may result in a click or nothing . For me , I've found it best not to put off cleaning or take a short cut .

mgtf1500 10-18-2019 08:35 PM

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I want to thank everyone for their responses. After getting it out of the car the battery of less than 2 years was bummed out. It looks to have an internal short somewhere. Now is the time to see how good guarantees are.

CarlG 10-19-2019 02:44 PM

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Batteries these days are certainly not what they use to be!


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