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sugarmaker 06-01-2021 10:15 PM

1932 The Deuce, Dually, Dump Truck
 

Barn folks,
I am fairly new to the Ford Barn Forum. Sent here years ago by a Ford friend. I am in the early stages of a new to me project that I will need much help and guidance on in the future. I have posted a few pictures of this truck I was looking at. Today with the help of several friends I decided to secure this truck. Hopefully over the next few weeks we can get it home and start to look at it in more detail.

I had been looking for a project. I found one!

I tend to write a lot and post a lot of pictures I hope both will be ok? Being active on other forums for years I try to check in almost once a day.

Ok back to the project.
The truck was advertised in a small newsletter for our local antique tractor club. I called the number and went and looked at it several weeks ago. It was a local truck used in a water well drilling business. Today 6-1-21 I decided this should be my next Ford project. The plans will develop as we learn more about these!
https://i.imgur.com/IJT5slM.jpg

Having only owned Ford trucks since the mid 70's it checked that box.
This 32 AAB dump truck has been stored up on blocks since about 1952 or 1953. It has 65K miles on the odometer. Its pretty complete and original except for maybe the turn signals and the headlights.
https://i.imgur.com/9xNyVxK.jpg

I am brand new to these vintage trucks. It appealed to me. Two other friends looked it over and give a nod of approval. The owner and I came to agreement on the price and hopefully it will be able to get out and see the light of day soon.
https://i.imgur.com/fpPcM0Z.jpg

The dump bed is starting to grow on me. It was a "work truck"! It is a hydraulic lift. The dump bed is a Galion. Tag is on the right side rail: Might be a little hard to read? I thought it might be a GarWood from other truck pictures. I was wrong. It has a rounded inside corner. The GarWoods are sharp in the bed corners.
https://i.imgur.com/1qCWQX4.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/lgnfwXv.jpg

This truck is not running,it does roll, on some poor old tires, engine is stuck, dump bed is not hooked up or attached to the frame and the list goes on and on! But that's where we start! This truck falls into the category of Barn find, which should fit the Ford Barn nicely too!

Enough for tonight. Your comments are always welcome!

Regards,
Chris

soonersace 06-01-2021 10:25 PM

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Wow Looks awesome! Good luck!!!


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tomcarman 06-01-2021 11:01 PM

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That's fantastic! Great post on a great find. Please keep us updated.

1952henry 06-01-2021 11:16 PM

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Good find. Have fun with it. Be fun to watch progress.

VeryTangled 06-01-2021 11:19 PM

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What a charming score! I like trucks a lot, and the dump takes it to the next level of cool. Chris you've written a great posting.

My sarcastic side screams "get a tire sponsor." Sorry.

I bet those turn signals were comforting for the operator even if they aren't proper or pleasing. Rear visibility is near impossible in this rig, and you see there's no passenger outside mirror. I guess all the roads it was riding were single lane?

Well done you.

Tinker 06-01-2021 11:29 PM

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Keep in mind when making changes what you will be using it for. If your plan is to scream down the highway and go to wallyworld or to go to some shows, tool around and have fun. But I have a feeling you know that.


Great truck as is! Cosmetically. Nothing beyound just cleaning up. Wiring and little stuff might need attention.


Might be more difficult with what you have, but their are resources and guys here that know every bolt.

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=269580

deuce lover 06-02-2021 12:39 AM

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Nice.It even or appears to have the original evasive radiator cap.

sugarmaker 06-02-2021 05:51 AM

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Ford Folks,
Thanks for the kind words and great resource information. The rough plan for this unit is
1. Get it out where people can see it. (Hope there will be some interest)
2. Service it to be running and moving/stopping safely.
3. Try to have some fun along the way meeting new folks and opening some new doors in life.
4. Trailer it to some events for show and tell. Its a good story.
5. If I could drive it to our local antique equipment shows within 40 miles within the next 2 years and not break the bank It will have met my expectations.
6. Meet some new friends that may help me along the way.
7. Long term goals = None Its just a day at a time.
8. Maybe the kids, grandkids, or great grandkids will have some fun with the truck at some point, even if its just to set in the shade next to it.

Lets see we may have some more pictures too?
The truck was last inspected around 1951 or 1952. Looks like Jan 31st. I was born Jan 3 52.:
https://i.imgur.com/68sYauD.jpg

Yep it has a roof:
https://i.imgur.com/LV7PG1t.jpg

Rears, yes tires will be on the list but not for a while.
https://i.imgur.com/8jmEZEL.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/tHwjX5P.jpg

Turn signal switch:
https://i.imgur.com/uoC6Wa3.jpg

Cluster:
https://i.imgur.com/NJxIsV6.jpg

signals: These are kind of neat!
https://i.imgur.com/jwVDxip.jpg

I believe this is the correct type B engine:
https://i.imgur.com/FAeq2BQ.jpg

Ok must go work on something in the shop!

Regards,
Chris

1952henry 06-02-2021 06:08 AM

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I have a pair of.double-sided hooded arrow signal lights. Wont mount.them, just wanted a pair.

DavidG 06-02-2021 08:28 AM

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The Ford archives photo below shows what your truck's chassis looked like when new before the cab, firewall, hood, fenders, etc. were added.

corvette8n 06-02-2021 09:07 AM

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That is a great find, I wouldn’t mind having a dump truck but space and money preclude that from ever happening. Do keep the pictures coming it will be interesting to see the project progress.

GB SISSON 06-02-2021 09:24 AM

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That is an amazing find! It is in perfect condition. Holy Cow, you really scored on the truck. Chuck's Trucks in Conneticut, Bob Selzam in NJ for big truck parts. I'll be following your thread.

51504bat 06-02-2021 09:49 AM

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Try a 50/50 mixture of ATF and acetone to soak the cylinders/valves with to free up the engine. Time is your friend, don't rush the process. Great find. I'm a fan of big trucks so I'll be watching as your progress.

rockfla 06-02-2021 09:57 AM

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Really cool truck, hope you don't plan on too much "restoration" it looks pretty killer as it sits!!!! Will be following your progress with it for sure

totto 06-02-2021 03:34 PM

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Looks like you have a "Galion" dump body. I have a 1937 Dump with a Garwood body with power take off to run the hydraulic bed. Same wheel base as yours (131in). NICE BARN FIND!!!! Let me know if you need any "pointers". My 1937 has 35,000 miles. Was a truck to haul garbage to the dump. Was owned by a bank in NYC that had property North of NYC.

sugarmaker 06-02-2021 05:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidG (Post 2022587)
The Ford archives photo below shows what your truck's chassis looked like when new before the cab, firewall, hood, fenders, etc. were added.

David,
That is a great picture! I would love to have a large picture like that for the wall!
Have seen lots of folks with frames looking like new again.
Regards,
Chris

sugarmaker 06-02-2021 05:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 51504bat (Post 2022605)
Try a 50/50 mixture of ATF and acetone to soak the cylinders/valves with to free up the engine. Time is your friend, don't rush the process. Great find. I'm a fan of big trucks so I'll be watching as your progress.

Thanks, I will probably try this solution. In my previous travels in the stuck engine world I have done that. It did not help and the engine needed to be torn down and reworked to get it back in running order. I did have a 55 Crown that I got the engine unstuck and it burned a quart of oil every 200 miles! It now is in a friends Crown Vic after he did a complete rebuild.
I will be as gentle as possible.

Wonderful positive helpful comments from all I do appreciate the response. Now if the wife would appreciate it as much we would be golden!

Just some other random shots if duplicates sorry:
https://i.imgur.com/Itvp2CF.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/uPLi03T.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/GaNYA5t.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/gIpcKS6.jpg

I am going to need input and I will ask some newbee questions. Like this one:
What is the small selector lever on the left side of the shift lever just under the knob? It has a rod connected going down the left side of the shift lever. Is this a two speed range selector or something??
https://i.imgur.com/M8g8xeE.jpg

Regards,
Chris

4t8v8 06-02-2021 05:52 PM

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Don't know for sure on the Ford but on a '33 chevy 1 1/2 toner I used to have it was a reverse lock out. Had to lift it to reach reverse.

sugarmaker 06-02-2021 05:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 4t8v8 (Post 2022767)
Don't know for sure on the Ford but on a '33 chevy 1 1/2 toner I used to have it was a reverse lock out. Had to lift it to reach reverse.

Well that sure could be it? I have seen these on Allis WC long shifter transmissions.
We will see if others confirm that too. Thanks
Regards,
Chris

JM 35 Sedan 06-02-2021 06:13 PM

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That's a nice truck Chris, and should be a fun project for you getting that back in drivable condition.
I bought one similar to that about 15 years ago. It was also a 131" wb, but had a stake bed rather than dump. Wound up selling it about 5 years ago. Had too many other projects going, and no time to work on that one. I could post some pics if you'd like to see your trucks brother ;):D

PS, will post pics when I can go back into my old computer and find them.

Bill OH 06-02-2021 06:16 PM

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This small rod on the side of the shift lever is for reverse. Use your thumb on the little lever and pull up and at the same time push the shift lever to the right and then back toward the seat and that selects reverse. Push the lever to the left and forward is creeper low, straight back toward the seat is first, push the lever forward to neutral, then to the right, then forward and that gives second, then straight back toward the seat and your in third. When in neutral, by pulling up on the little lever on the left side of the shift lever allows further travel to the right to engage reverse. You will need to double clutch during shifting except for reverse and starting from dead stop.. My father had a 33 ton and half with the V8. I remember it well. You will enjoy. Nice truck.

al's28/33 06-02-2021 07:19 PM

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W-O-W !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!
I LOVE IT!!!


Post all the pictures you can this will be a GREAT project!!!!!!!!

KDL 06-02-2021 07:34 PM

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Very very nice. I use the dump on mine often. You'll find it useful to have around. Great find.

sugarmaker 06-02-2021 09:05 PM

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Folks,
Thank all of you for the responses! Obviously there are still a lot of old Ford lovers out there. Bill OH, Thanks for the explanation of the reverse lock out thumb lever! Its cute as a button! My Allis tractors have a spring loaded feature to keep you from going into reverse too. Also the same shift "H" pattern. So that will be easy to remember!

By the way in my life these are some of the other projects! I hope you dont mind me sharing. I can go a little over the top some times!
1954 Allis-Chalmers WD45 that I did a (RCP) Refurb, Clean and Paint. The mounted 3 bottom plows are the same ones I used when I was a kid.
https://i.imgur.com/SH9UGwp.jpg?1

A friend on my WD45 at plow day:
https://i.imgur.com/owtYajO.jpg

Also just built a new shop since this time last year. Still much to do but made it through winter OK. This is one of the reasons I was looking for a new project too. Ok I like to show it off. So far I like it a lot! Should be a nice place to work on the 32 also!
https://i.imgur.com/DIHq6pe.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/8FohnQK.jpg

The wife caught me actually trying to do some work on the shop:
https://i.imgur.com/F59rlZx.jpg

Added a jib crane during the build:
https://i.imgur.com/siAtB1g.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/hiJU0Xa.jpg

another Allis WD:
https://i.imgur.com/XgBR4EZ.jpg

My home away from home!
https://i.imgur.com/hpqDZ9l.jpg

1/2 mile of PEX in the floor:
https://i.imgur.com/F7ag5nV.jpg

The wife and I:
https://i.imgur.com/wFo4pHe.jpg

some concrete:
https://i.imgur.com/HTz1LxV.jpg?1

Working on the inside now: still lots to do . This will be the home for the 32.
I have a spot picked out.
https://i.imgur.com/eiQCqRa.jpg

We have some winter too was happy to be dried in for first snow last fall:
https://i.imgur.com/g546bLl.jpg?1

interior walls (two zones of heat):
https://i.imgur.com/08Ghkt8.jpg

Stairs to the loft:
https://i.imgur.com/L9zOiC2.jpg

Some of my toys in the shop. Yes I will make room for the 32 for sure. I have a spot picked out already!
https://i.imgur.com/o4baHXQ.jpg

R38 in ceiling:
https://i.imgur.com/Y7j70vJ.jpg?1

cont:

sugarmaker 06-02-2021 09:06 PM

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Folks cont:
Yes I have a 53 Ford Jubilee also and a F250 Super Crew to keep the dump truck company
https://i.imgur.com/jYPv7FG.jpg

Utility room with boiler and half bath:
https://i.imgur.com/Qs0zzDf.jpg

White liner panels for the ceiling and 3 foot up the walls:
https://i.imgur.com/fOBHkUN.jpg

lighting and jib with 2 ton Dayton hoist:
https://i.imgur.com/akdy9de.jpg

Brought back this Allis F40 fork lift from the brink of being scraped. Grandson the master electrician on the job running it:
https://i.imgur.com/Ml0bo5S.jpg

Rough cut Hemlock for the interior above the white steel on the walls:
https://i.imgur.com/Qc9W957.jpg?1

Current look: It is 40 x 64. 10 foot eaves, 6/12 outside roof pitch with 3/12 inside in the high bay area. Loft is 28 x 14 x 7'2".
https://i.imgur.com/6VS0CzN.jpg

Yea I know picture overload sorry!
Regards,
Chris

sugarmaker 06-02-2021 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JM 35 Sedan (Post 2022776)
That's a nice truck Chris, and should be a fun project for you getting that back in drivable condition.
I bought one similar to that about 15 years ago. It was also a 131" wb, but had a stake bed rather than dump. Wound up selling it about 5 years ago. Had too many other projects going, and no time to work on that one. I could post some pics if you'd like to see your trucks brother ;):D

I would love to see the brother of my proposed truck. I say that because till its in the shop, I am never ready to call it mine.
So did you get yours drive able? Biggest challenges??
Regards,
Chris

al's28/33 06-02-2021 11:54 PM

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BEAUTIFUL SHOP...… just takes my breath away...…..

tomcarman 06-03-2021 12:04 AM

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And radiant floor heating. What a dream that would be for me. If I have to be on concrete at least it should be warm. Please keep posting your progress.

GB SISSON 06-03-2021 12:30 AM

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And radiant floor heating. What a dream that would be for me. If I have to be on concrete at least it should be warm. Please keep posting your progress.

Amen to that! Heck, any kind of heat would be welcome... And I too am a lover of the heavier Ford trucks. I have owned no fewer than 25 of them over the years. First was a '28 AA 1 1'/2 ton when I was 19 (born in '53). I have exhibited Trucks, tractors, and Hit n Miss engines at Our show in August at Lynden Wa every year for 34 years. Here's my '32.

flatford8 06-03-2021 03:38 AM

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Your shop and truck are amazing!!!!......Great tractor collection!!!.....to find a dump truck without a dented roof is awesome!!! Great post, I’ll be looking forward to reading/seeing more....... Mark

sugarmaker 06-03-2021 07:07 AM

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Thanks Guys!
The shop is a dream I have had for 20 years or more. Being of similar age as Mr Sisson (I was born in early 52) and of reasonable health I decided to take the plunge and just build it! I have not regreted it yet. Still gobs of work to do on the inside. I already have enough "junk" as the wife calls it to fill it too!:)
GB, Man your 32 looks awesome! I think these look great with the flat bed. I see your headlights look just like mine too. So I assume this was a typical change to go up to the sealed beam headlights? Your rims and tires look awesome! Now Im jealous!!

Off to the shop to help Jim work on his 29 Doodle Tug. We got it started for the first time in maybe 20 years?? John, The Model A guy, provide the parts and details for the final testing and start up. We think this is a factory tug that moved product? Today we evaluate why the axle has moved forward on the left side of the rear end. Also to get the battery box and new battery in place, and attach the seat, and secure the muffler and put in a gas shut off .......:

A glimpse:
https://i.imgur.com/imIy8Ng.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/oNCvPiL.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/KZP5chC.jpg

Just added a pintle hitch for him to attach his nice wagon to it!
https://i.imgur.com/ZbZhYSo.jpg

Yea he need to get on here and start his own thread! He has a 29 Doodle bug also,Its next to come over to the shop. We are trying to get this stuff ready for the July 16th Pioneer Steam and Gas Engine Show in Sagertown PA featuring Ford Tractors. Hoping to have the debut of the 32 there also.

Regards,
Chris

rockfla 06-03-2021 07:17 AM

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Wow Sugarmaker, I have a 50 X 60 shop and have been pretty fortunate and happy to have my shop and all that's in it. You've managed to make me jealous with your shop, sans the heated floor.....Give me A/C as here in No Fla "Heat" is only needed for "MAYBE" 20 to 30 days max! If that. But the heat and humidity 80% of the time is my enemy. AND yellow flies & Mosquitos. Fantastic collection you have there!!!

flatford8 06-03-2021 09:22 AM

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That Tug looks like one of the little trucks used at a airport. But, it’s to early for that. Doesn’t look to be “homemade” either...... Mark

John R 06-03-2021 05:27 PM

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Sugarmaker,
That is one nice truck. The condition is amazing considering that dump trucks usually have a very hard life.
I've got lots of parts for 32 BB trucks. Let me know when you find you need something.
Good luck,
John

sugarmaker 06-03-2021 09:48 PM

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Rock,
Sounds like you have a nice shop also! Mine is not yet organized, maybe never will be??:)

Flatford8,
Not sure of the history of the tug, It started right up easily today after Jim completed the gas line and installed the battery! Still have to look at the 1 inch axle movement issue.

John,
Thanks, I will probably be talking with you at some point.

We set a date of next Wednesday to bring the 32 home.
Should be able to pull it into the shop on the trailer and take a deep breath. I will have some pictures of the move for sure.
Regards,
Chris

Tinker 06-03-2021 11:07 PM

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Sooo... how's the truck going. Nice pictures. I'm a old tractor hit/miss guy too. Shop pictures are neat.

Mart 06-04-2021 02:24 AM

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I'm really glad to see that the truck has been bought by someone who has a good grasp of the situation. Too often these trucks are bought by a newcomer who thinks it can be driven for hours at highway speeds and will drive like a modern car or pickup. You, Sugarmaker, have a very nice shop and plenty of space to look after that old survivor. Good luck with it and always bear in mind often the best policy is to do as little as possible to it.
I look forward to seeing how the project progresses.
Mart.

sugarmaker 06-04-2021 07:12 AM

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Tinker, Mart, Folks,
Will try to get some pictures as the 32 comes out of the garage next week. The idea of doing less fits right in with getting to this age in life too! Great suggestion!
Lets see maybe a couple pictures I havent posted yet. Dont be suprized ifsomething comes up that was already talked about.
The seating:
https://i.imgur.com/ZGAtWvE.jpg

Well to me the back of the seat looks original. I guess is that the bottom is from a car, because I have seen that theses are typically a split front seat. Someone is making new repro seat spring sections.
Anyway so do you remove the seat to fill the tank?? Just shows how much I dont know about these vintage machines.
Any seat info would help too.
It looks like it is VERY well worn! from 20 years of service.

The side mount. I think this is a neat feature on these too. I got a picture of the chassis from David G and it shows that the spare could have also been under the rear of the frame.
https://i.imgur.com/gIpcKS6.jpg

Regards,
Chris

Bob C 06-04-2021 10:29 AM

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Here is a picture of the seat bottom.

sugarmaker 06-04-2021 09:40 PM

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Bob C,
Thank you for posting this picture of the seat and gas tank. Was the passenger seat hinged? My seat was probably worn out and replaced, with a full seat of some type? May not even be Ford??
Regards,
Chris


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