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whb52ford 12-08-2019 04:52 PM

Ford Starter
 

I see ton of used 6v starters for tractors. Does anyone know if a tractor starter will work in a car? How would I cross reference it. Can I cross a truck to car starter? thx

al's28/33 12-08-2019 05:29 PM

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Tractor starters are a different set-up than autos...… I THINK …… and car starters can be swapped for trucks too.

Bob C 12-08-2019 07:56 PM

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What year 6cyl or V8?

whb52ford 12-08-2019 09:48 PM

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6cyl, std tranny, 52. Two different shaft lengths

19Fordy 12-08-2019 09:58 PM

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I think the 6 cylinder and 8 cylinder starters are not interchangeable.

whb52ford 12-09-2019 06:34 AM

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My friend had an 8 automatic and my starter did not work in his car. I donít know if it was 6 vs 8, or auto vs std

L-head 12-09-2019 08:59 AM

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An 8N tractor (6V) uses the same starter as a 60hp flathead. Your local New Holland/Ford tractor dealer should be able to supply parts for them. Their parts books ever carry the 52-part numbers. Even the starter drives work on 60hp engines.

big job 12-09-2019 09:00 AM

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My question is what is the difference between automatic and standard V8 starter I only
have seen one automatic it was a new 1951 (Victoria i think). My reason is couple yrs
ago we picked up a 1953 complete EAB with automatic & haven't got to it yet .. sam

whb52ford 12-09-2019 09:21 AM

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As I remember, and it was years ago, it had to do with the length of the shaft. Mine was to short or to long. I can't remember. I think the bolt pattern was the same, but that was a long time ago. His starter was at the shop getting rebuilt and he wanted to start his car, so I took mine out, but it didn't work.

51504bat 12-09-2019 10:16 AM

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Automatic V8 starters are different than standard V8's

flatheadmurre 12-09-2019 12:31 PM

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If i remember right the fordomatic/mercomatic starter has a different front plate with 3 bolts one tab sticking out from it with an extra bolthole.
And a 9 tooth sprocket.

FritzJr 12-09-2019 12:47 PM

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Starter shaft is longer for the flathead V8's with automatics as compared to V8's with standard transmission.

whb52ford 12-10-2019 10:30 AM

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I wonder if the shaft length is the same deal as the V8. Will the shorter one work on a 6 std?

Wonder if they are both 9 tooth
I do know the V8 has an L shaped clip that the 6 does not have

Bob C 12-10-2019 09:09 PM

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I looked in the Hollander Interchange and it shows 51-53 pass 8 cyl automatic, 52-53 pass 6 cyl overhead, 52 truck 6 cyl overhead, 50-53 Merc automatic.
Starter catalog shows #3108 5 3/16" shaft ( which I think is the short one) one mounting ear. See link for picture. http://www.wilsonautoelectric.com/Pa...7-e690abfc15fd


Bob

whb52ford 12-10-2019 09:18 PM

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I'm beginning to think the difference is not 6 vs 8 but auto vs std.

Did it show what std transmissions interchange.

Bob C 12-10-2019 10:11 PM

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For the 1952-53 6 cyl it only showed the one starter.

whb52ford 12-11-2019 07:56 AM

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It’s funny because the 52 and 53 Ford parts book do not show a starter for 6 cyl std. I know they made one because I have one!

Wondering if I could get an end cap for my car and put on a tractor starter?

rotorwrench 12-11-2019 10:24 AM

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It depends on the parts book. Most Fords used the same starter for years until they started bolting them on with ears off the rear bearing plate. A lot of parts internally were still the same. The 9N and V8-60 as well as the 8N all used the same starter and they bolt on same as the early 221/239 V8 but they have a different armature and rear plate. The only difference between the flathead V8 starter and the two flathead 6 starters was the little bracket that attached to the oil pan. The later overhead valve tractors have bolt on flange starters like the automatic transmission cars & pickups. The armatures are a different part number though.

L-head 12-11-2019 10:46 AM

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2N,9N,8N use the same starter. The 60hp flathead uses the same starter and starter drive. The starter drive on tractors and 60hp engines attach with a pin and not set screws and a woodruff key like the other V8 cars and trucks.

whb52ford 12-11-2019 12:51 PM

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Can anyone give me the correct starter part number for a 52 Ford car 6 cyl, std tranny?


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