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junkyardjeff 08-27-2017 05:18 PM

Were any of the 40 sedan deliveries built as standards
 

All I have seen them as were deluxes but since they were officially trucks I would have thought they would have came as standards,I am going to build a model of one as a standard and was curious if they were ever made.

wisbangman 08-27-2017 06:13 PM

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Ford made a ' Standard, ' Sedan Delivery in 1939. They made a ' Standard ' Station Wagon in 1939 and 40, can't be sure about the Standard Sedan Delivery for 1940.

Ken/Alabama 08-27-2017 11:42 PM

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I believe the 41 sedan delivery had 40 std grill & hood.

ford38v8 08-28-2017 12:20 AM

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Ford offered only the DeLuxe Sedan Delivery for model year 1940.

TJ 08-28-2017 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ford38v8 (Post 1519486)
Ford offered only the DeLuxe Sedan Delivery for model year 1940.

I recently saw a nicely restored '40 standard sedan delivery in Lafayette, Ca. It was restored from a nice original.

38bill 08-28-2017 11:34 AM

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FWIW my truck book says for 1940: " The attractive new Sedan Delivery styling was based on the 1940 Deluxe passenger car line."

Kube 08-28-2017 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by TJ (Post 1519552)
I recently saw a nicely restored '40 standard sedan delivery in Lafayette, Ca. It was restored from a nice original.

Not an authentic restoration by any means. As has been stated accurately in a previous post, no such vehicle was built by Ford in 1940.

Is there a chance what you had witnessed was actually a panel truck?

V8COOPMAN 08-28-2017 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Kube (Post 1519649)
Not an authentic restoration by any means. As has been stated accurately in a previous post, no such vehicle was built by Ford in 1940.

Is there a chance what you had witnessed was actually a panel truck?

As KUBE notes above, you may have seen a "PANEL DELIVERY", and they were built in a "standard-ish" front end guise as seen below. DD

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6231/6...96541456_z.jpg

V8 Bob 08-28-2017 01:10 PM

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This discussion is also on the HAMB, and a very knowledgeable Ford owner states that 740 standard '40 sedan deliveries were made, according to Ford archives. One is pictured that has been authenticated. Not trying to ruffle any feathers, but this subject is something I have also have been curious about. :)

Kube 08-28-2017 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by V8 Bob (Post 1519687)
This discussion is also on the HAMB, and a very knowledgeable Ford owner states that 740 standard '40 sedan deliveries were made, according to Ford archives. One is pictured that has been authenticated. Not trying to ruffle any feathers, but this subject is something I have also have been curious about. :)

I don't have access to my records until I get home late this evening. I'll check at that time.
I suppose the possibility exists that a few were manufactured but as memory serves (oh oh) I don't recall that being the case.

Fordors 08-28-2017 01:51 PM

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The photo posted on the HAMB shows a profile shot, I'd like to see the front end. Regardless, without seeing the "documentation" a Standard grille and hood could have been added at any time.
The numbers I have access to show 4101 85 hp, 114 95 hp and 722 60 hp built, all Deluxe.
The same source, Lorin Sorensen's "The Commercial Fords" has the production numbers for 1940 Panel Deliveries shown as incomplete. Two things come to mind- the 112" wheelbase Panel used the Standard car grille and headlamp doors both painted body color and also Sorensen (RIP) is considered to have been an excellent researcher. Could those 740 Standards have in actuality been 112" wb Panel Deliveries?

rotorwrench 08-28-2017 02:07 PM

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The panel delivery type is be based on the commercial pickup which resembles the standard 1940 passenger cars to some degree but taller in the doors with the more pickup like cab. I think Budd made the bodies for this low production stuff. This leads to some of the confusion. The sedan delivery types were based on passenger cars which for 1940, would have been deluxe models. It would not be too God awful difficult to switch. Ford could be fickle about stuff like this so nothing would surprise me much. Maybe late 1940 and early 1941 models get mixed up.

junkyardjeff 08-28-2017 04:49 PM

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I know about the panel trucks with the pick up front sheetmetal that look like a 40 standard but was curious about the sedan deliveries,now were there any 39 deluxe sedan deliveries made.

Pewsplace 08-28-2017 05:44 PM

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Here is a photo of a 1939 Ford Sedan Delivery. They also made 1940 standard deliveries.

TJ 08-28-2017 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Kube (Post 1519649)
Not an authentic restoration by any means. As has been stated accurately in a previous post, no such vehicle was built by Ford in 1940.

Is there a chance what you had witnessed was actually a panel truck?

No it was not a panel delivery, it was a sedan delivery. I'm well aware of the difference between the two.

sawzall 08-28-2017 10:11 PM

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in the event someone has an incorrect sedan delivery.. Id gladly accept your inaccurate restoration and gladly restore it to its appropriate trim, whatever that happens to be..

I don't know if 40 standards were available.. and frankly I don't care.. 40 Deliveries are so cool no matter what clip they wear.

tubman 08-28-2017 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by V8 Bob (Post 1519687)
This discussion is also on the HAMB, and a very knowledgeable Ford owner states that 740 standard '40 sedan deliveries were made, according to Ford archives. One is pictured that has been authenticated. Not trying to ruffle any feathers, but this subject is something I have also have been curious about. :)

The one that "is pictured that has been authenticated" also has what appears to be '58 Ford hubcaps. Hardly a convincing situation.

junkyardjeff 08-28-2017 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by sawzall (Post 1519902)
in the event someone has an incorrect sedan delivery.. Id gladly accept your inaccurate restoration and gladly restore it to its appropriate trim, whatever that happens to be..

I don't know if 40 standards were available.. and frankly I don't care.. 40 Deliveries are so cool no matter what clip they wear.

I am wanting to build models of versions that the model companies did not produce,if a 40 standard delivery was made then I want to build one and if a 39 deluxe delivery was made I also want to build one. I know with plastic anything is possible but not wanting to build what ifs right now.

Fordors 08-28-2017 10:43 PM

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Until an official Ford factory photo or even just a period photo of a 1940 Standard Delivery surfaces I'll stand by my statements.

fishnjim 08-28-2017 11:06 PM

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what is the difference between a panel delivery and a sedan delivery


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