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[email protected] 12-02-2019 09:57 PM

water pump end play how to stop?
 

I just bought a 1929 Model A, and am having the engine rebuilt. I have found in taking the water pump off that the new fan on the shaft was loose, how do I tighten fan and get rid of end play?

Bill G 12-03-2019 02:07 AM

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Are you sure it was the fan on the shaft or is it play in the shaft in the water pump housing? If it is the shaft, which is REAL common, you can rebuild or buy a rebuilt water pump. However, a much cheaper fix is to buy a collar from any of the vendors.

Synchro909 12-03-2019 04:36 AM

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It is most likely just too much end play in the shaft. Try one of these https://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/P...l-a/water-pump

burner31 12-03-2019 06:24 AM

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Ditto #3

Ranchero50 12-03-2019 12:06 PM

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Mine does the same thing, moves forward about 3/8".

johnbuckley 12-03-2019 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Synchro909 (Post 1827688)
It is most likely just too much end play in the shaft. Try one of these https://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/P...l-a/water-pump

Trouble with these collars is you have to take the pump off and to pieces to fit the collar. I am sure I saw somewhere a two-part collar that could be fitted over the shaft without removing the whole thing. ( or try a small hose clip:), -yes it does work!)

Kurt in NJ 12-03-2019 12:27 PM

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I drilled the head for a stainless pan head screw---- this way stock parts fit , no modifications needed

Purdy Swoft 12-03-2019 01:45 PM

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I either use the longer water pump shaft and grind for at least six thousands clearance at the rear of the shaft where it meets inside the head . There is a collar that can be installed on the water pump shaft , behind the fan and the pump doesn't need to be disassembled .

Fred K OR 12-03-2019 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 1827618)
I just bought a 1929 Model A, and am having the engine rebuilt. I have found in taking the water pump off that the new fan on the shaft was loose, how do I tighten fan and get rid of end play?

Sounds like you are talking about two possible problems here. If the fan is loose on the shaft, just tighten the nut on the end of the shaft that holds the fan on. If it is a shaft play, being you have the engine out (rebuilt engine) I would just put a new leakless water pump on it.

Chuck Sea/Tac 12-03-2019 07:50 PM

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What kind of fan did you get? It is possible the shaft and fan angles don’t match. Also on an aluminum two blade fan, you need a washer behind the nut to keep from biting into the aluminum and eventually coming loose and wallowing out.

California Travieso 12-04-2019 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Fred K OR (Post 1827929)
Sounds like you are talking about two possible problems here. If the fan is loose on the shaft, just tighten the nut on the end of the shaft that holds the fan on. If it is a shaft play, being you have the engine out (rebuilt engine) I would just put a new leakless water pump on it.

I second Fred’s comment. If you’re getting the engine rebuilt, might as well get a leakless water pump and an aluminum two blade fan if you don’t already have one. Cheap upgrades compared to the cost of rebuilding the engine.

David Serrano

aermotor 12-04-2019 06:13 PM

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Is there any type of repair to the stop block in the head it self? I have an old head laying around and it appears that some sort of flat bottom U shaped spacer would maybe work if the problem is caused by this.

John

DHZIEMAN 12-13-2019 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by johnbuckley (Post 1827800)
Trouble with these collars is you have to take the pump off and to pieces to fit the collar. I am sure I saw somewhere a two-part collar that could be fitted over the shaft without removing the whole thing. ( or try a small hose clip:), -yes it does work!)

I purchase from a seller on ebay, and I believe Granger has them also that is a split collar. No removal of water pump! I am a lazy member!

David R. 12-13-2019 04:43 PM

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I just took the pump apart on my AA and it had a nice little two piece brass collar on the shaft behind the fan. The shaft and impeller, bushing etc.,. needs replacing but the roller bearing looks like new.


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