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skidmarks 05-25-2016 08:36 PM

Model A coupe serial number question
 

Looked at a 1930 standard coupe today. Story is that it's supposed to be from Canada. Serial number is CAT22**. This seemed odd to me. All the 30-31 model A's I have had all started with just the letter A. I did not see the car in person just pictures of it however i had the title in my hands which is a Pennsylvania title issued in 1994.

skidmarks 05-25-2016 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by forever4 (Post 1299406)
That is a May/June 1930 Canadian engine number.
Should be an oval speedo and split running board splash aprons.

Cool thanks for the information. I just didn't want it to be a issue when I try and tag it in Delaware. Use to be easy but the state is getting to be stricter with old cars.

mot 05-26-2016 01:21 AM

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take a copy of the judging standards to the dmv
go to the canadian section

kbinde2 05-26-2016 04:32 AM

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Delaware has pretty strict procedures at DMV, we purchased a '29 Coupe in MI (running and roadworthy), took the title to DMV and a Vehicle Theft/State Police had to verify engine and frame numbers matched, requiring body/frame inspection disassembly..

ronn 05-26-2016 06:03 AM

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you can get an officer to verify in DE-not that big a deal...............

BILL WILLIAMSON 05-26-2016 09:13 AM

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When registering an old car, I show them some nice pics & LIMP a lot.
Bill W.

CarlG 05-26-2016 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by BILL WILLIAMSON (Post 1299570)
When registering an old car, I show them some nice pics & LIMP a lot.
Bill W.

I'll bet you do that at McDonalds as well. :D

skidmarks 05-26-2016 11:39 AM

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I have had a number of early V8 cars verified at the house. They will come out and look at it. I just wasn't sure the deal with a Canadian model A serial number . The other model a cars I have had just started with the letter A

captndan 05-26-2016 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlG (Post 1299571)
I'll bet you do that at McDonalds as well. :D

Wake up Bill, McDonalds already has discounts for senior citizens and handicap parking too.

SGT in Ont. 05-26-2016 12:47 PM

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Canadian built A's do not have the engine number stamped on the frame. Don't waste your time lifting the body looking forit.

Rex_A_Lott 05-26-2016 12:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BILL WILLIAMSON (Post 1299570)
When registering an old car, I show them some nice pics & LIMP a lot.
Bill W.

I have heard they have little blue pills to take care of that LIMP problem.:)

skidmarks 05-26-2016 01:13 PM

Re: Model A coupe serial number question
 

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Originally Posted by SGT in Ont. (Post 1299665)
Canadian built A's do not have the engine number stamped on the frame. Don't waste your time lifting the body looking forit.

Thanks that's good to know. Delaware auto theft after its inspected gets a sticker put on the B pillar and once it gets a safety inspection and antique tags it no longer has to get inspected every 2 years.

Bick in New Zealand 05-26-2016 02:37 PM

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You should also have a body number, just in front of the seat riser that usually starts with 1F .......

skidmarks 06-24-2016 09:17 PM

Re: Model A coupe serial number question
 

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Originally Posted by SGT in Ont. (Post 1299665)
Canadian built A's do not have the engine number stamped on the frame. Don't waste your time lifting the body looking forit.

I found the number stamped in the floor. This car judging by the Robertson fasteners and the black background on the radiator shell emblem pretty much shows it is a Canadian car. Any other unique features that stand out on these?

Also . By what responses to my serial number question, the serial number on this Canadian built model a ford is only on the engine block?

clo2jim 06-24-2016 10:08 PM

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The Canadian built Model A's did NOT have a Data Plates on the cowl from mid- 1928 (I think), although the four holes are there.

The MARC/MAFCA Judging and Restoration Standards have a section on the Canadian Built Model A - lots of unique differences between Canadian and US built Model A's

The MARC/MAFCA Judging Standards group is working on updates to the Canadian Built Cars. This is being lead by Everett Hessel from Canada - Head Judge at the 2015 MARC meet in Niagara Falls, Ontario.

Yes, the Robertson Screws and fasteners are unique to the Canadian built Model A's.

There has been lots discussion on Canadian Built Model A's on Fordbarn.

Also the only serial number is the one on the block

skidmarks 06-25-2016 12:28 PM

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Well hopefully the auto theft inspection knows that the number is only on the engine block so I don't have to remove the front Fender to find nothing!

1931 flamingo 06-25-2016 02:15 PM

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If it had a number it wouldn't be under the fender, it would be under the body which means you have to lift the body and hope it's legible.
Paul in CT

Mike V. Florida 06-26-2016 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by skidmarks (Post 1314191)
Well hopefully the auto theft inspection knows that the number is only on the engine block so I don't have to remove the front Fender to find nothing!

Buy the restoration guidelines and you will have the proof they need at the time of the inspection. Or don't and take a chance you will have to make another trip.

kbinde2 06-26-2016 05:01 AM

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The DMV/SP unit that is in Kent Co. was very knowledgeable and spent a lot of time verifying our frame number. As stated in your earlier posts, you have already had the experience.. just have all your info for that vehicle available when they come to inspect, I'm sure they do their homework also.!

ronn 06-26-2016 07:53 AM

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The Canadian built Model A's did NOT have a Data Plates on the cowl from mid- 1928 (I think), although the four holes are there.

my 28 phaeton has 9/3/28 stamped on the lower cowl....... yes Canadian


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