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Walt Dupont--Me. 08-27-2013 05:34 PM

One of Walt's last couple of engines
 

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Everybody likes to see pic. I can't read but I can look at pic. This one of those odd ball 59 blocks with the 3-1/16 bore. Before I started on this engine I was going to bore to 3-5/16, BUT, when I realized it was only 3-1/16 I didn't want to bore 1/4in. so I just went to 3-3/16, 4in. crank. Max-1 cam, aluminum flywheel, heads and dual carbs. all balanced. This is going in a 37 convertible sedan. I'll post another in a min. Walt

Royal Ryser 08-27-2013 05:48 PM

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Walt, what is oddball about a 3 1/6" bore in a 59 block? That's what I have in my 36.

Walt Dupont--Me. 08-27-2013 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Royal Ryser (Post 714735)
Walt, what is oddball about a 3 1/6" bore in a 59 block? That's what I have in my 36.

All Ford engines from 32-41 were 3-1/16 bore, in 46 they went to the 59 series block and 3-3/16 bore, about every 5 years I run into one of the 59 blocks with 3-1/16 bore, I guess most figure they are factory replace blocks for 39-41 cars. Walt

Ross F-1 08-27-2013 06:00 PM

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A thing of beauty!

Is the cam gear painted white?

rotorwrench 08-27-2013 06:08 PM

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The late parts book refers to them as the 41A and they were a replacement block for the 221 engines starting during the war and likely sometime in 1944 when the government started to allow more spares for civilian products. They have the 59 casting on the back just like the 59A but less bore. They are impossible to detect among the 59 series unless you mike out the bores.

Jeff K 08-27-2013 06:19 PM

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Good looking engine...

Walt Dupont--Me. 08-27-2013 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ross F-1 (Post 714741)
A thing of beauty!

Is the cam gear painted white?

Hey Ross, I had the cam gear chrome plated so when the next guy strips it he'll say, what to hell, lol not really, I just had the flash to close the engine. Walt

uncle max 08-27-2013 06:20 PM

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Hey Walt -
Be sure to remove those red Bondo guards before you light it up! :D
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Originally Posted by Walt Dupont--Me. (Post 714726)
Everybody likes to see pic. I can't read but I can look at pic. This one of those odd ball 59 blocks with the 3-1/16 bore. Before I started on this engine I was going to bore to 3-5/16, BUT, when I realized it was only 3-1/16 I didn't want to bore 1/4in. so I just went to 3-3/16, 4in. crank. Max-1 cam, aluminum flywheel, heads and dual carbs. all balanced. This is going in a 37 convertible sedan. I'll post another in a min. Walt


oldford2 08-27-2013 06:27 PM

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Walt,
Looks like a sweetie. Be sure and post when you run it on your test stand. Quick question: some talk on the Barn recently on valves. I know you grind the stems with solid lifters but what valves do you use and are they separate intake and exhaust or do you use the same valve for both?
Thanks
John

Walt Dupont--Me. 08-27-2013 06:27 PM

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Hey Max, I thought those 97 was running rich, so I was supposed to remove them those covers? LOL. Those are mad max carbs, you don't even have to adjust them when he gets through with them. Your the man on 97's. Walt

Jefscoupe 08-27-2013 06:42 PM

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Whur-kin ah git me wun-dem krome timin' gee-urz?
Prolly gud fer uh-nuther tee-yun horse-par. :D

Great looking engine Walt. You da man too. :cool:
Why the heck you gotta be in Maine?...:rolleyes:
I guess it keeps guys like me from "dropping by".;)

Barn Junk 08-27-2013 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rotorwrench (Post 714746)
The late parts book refers to them as the 41A and they were a replacement block for the 221 engines starting during the war and likely sometime in 1944 when the government started to allow more spares for civilian products. They have the 59 casting on the back just like the 59A but less bore. They are impossible to detect among the 59 series unless you mike out the bores.

They come in various configurations. I have one that has the voided area under the valve ports (like pre-war) and passes the pencil test at the front of the block and has a 59 mark. I think Ford was in such a hurry to fill the demand to get worn out car running after the war that they quickly modified existing molds the produce some replacement blocks.

russcc 08-27-2013 07:17 PM

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Looked at buying a 59L block until I measured the bore and found out it was only 3 1/6th.

Talkwrench 08-27-2013 07:32 PM

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Oohhh can I have one of those!

epw1949 08-27-2013 07:33 PM

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Walt,I like the pictures,Skip should have the water pumps to you by 9/3/13.When I was there last week I did not notice the generator offset bracket being on, looks good.See ya thursday,8/29/13 in the afternoon.Take care see ya soon.E.P.W.

Walt Dupont--Me. 08-27-2013 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by epw1949 (Post 714836)
Walt,I like the pictures,Skip should have the water pumps to you by 9/3/13.When I was there last week I did not notice the generator offset bracket being on, looks good.See ya thursday,8/29/13 in the afternoon.Take care see ya soon.E.P.W.

Hey Ed. can't wait to see that 34 roadster your bringing up Thur. Hope the rain holds off. Walt

Fredb_ 08-27-2013 11:24 PM

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Nice work. I pulled the 81A out of my 38 sedan and dropped a 59 block in. I traded a sand rail for it, and it was formerly in a marine application down in California somewhere. My 59 block has been bored and is running 49 mercury heads (I think). That's about all I know about it. The trade was risky, but it has good oil pressure and no apparent problems so far. It ain't as purdy as yours though.

Walt Dupont--Me. 08-28-2013 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Fredb_ (Post 714963)
Nice work. I pulled the 81A out of my 38 sedan and dropped a 59 block in. I traded a sand rail for it, and it was formerly in a marine application down in California somewhere. My 59 block has been bored and is running 49 mercury heads (I think). That's about all I know about it. The trade was risky, but it has good oil pressure and no apparent problems so far. It ain't as purdy as yours though.

I'm sure your engine runs good Fred but I wouldn't run those 49 Merc heads. They have big combustion chambers and drop the compression. If you want that style heads you should run 52-53 EAB car heads. They have smaller chambers. You'll notice a big difference. Walt


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