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29spcoupe 02-11-2015 03:06 PM

Oil drain tube
 

I have a pretty good leak at the back of my engine. I read something about the possibility of the drain tube on the rear main may be plugged. I see in Les Andrews' book that the drain tube is threaded. Can this drain tube be unscrewed without dropping the main bearing cap? John

Joe K 02-11-2015 03:21 PM

Re: Oil drain tube
 

Tube is threaded but usually "spot welded" to prevent it backing out and ending up in the bottom of your oil pan.

Joe K

29spcoupe 02-11-2015 03:36 PM

Re: Oil drain tube
 

Thanks, John

hardtimes 02-11-2015 03:56 PM

Re: Oil drain tube
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by 29spcoupe (Post 1032005)
Thanks, John

Yeah, you can unthread it easily. I put blue thread lock on mine. Some ,probably most , do not use anything. Even if a spot of 'weld' is present, you can remove it and then unscrew it.
BTW...stick something up thru tube after unscrewing it...to ensure that it is clean. Mine would let air pass thru, but was still about half crudded closed.

caveat: the tube/pipe threads are very fine and prone to being cross threaded. Use patience/caution to thread back into cap .

29spcoupe 02-11-2015 04:34 PM

Re: Oil drain tube
 

thanks, John

Bob Bidonde 02-12-2015 09:46 AM

Re: Oil drain tube
 

The drain tube can be screwed into the rear main bearing cap too deeply which will impede the oil flow out of the bearing. This will surely cause excessive leakage of oil through the flywheel housing and onto the ground.

Ed in Maine 02-12-2015 11:43 AM

Re: Oil drain tube
 

Several years ago I also had a bad leak at the back of the engine. I removed the oil pan and looked at that tube and found that the previous owner had squeezed the tube and dropped a ball bearing down the tube to restrict the oil flow. I removed the tube and no more leaks. Ed

Ed in Maine 02-12-2015 11:45 AM

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I forgot to say I took the ball bearing out and replaced the tube. Ed

Joe K 02-12-2015 12:52 PM

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That ball bearing'ed tube may have been a factory install on an engine headed for AA truck use.

The Service Bulletins describe the one-way drain tube variant for "trucks in service where the angle of incline is found regularly greater than 15 degrees" or some such descriptive.

Sort of the reverse of the cotter pin in the flywheel housing IMHO. I expect a LOT of these were removed/retro'ed after getting plugged up on the ball.

Joe K

29spcoupe 02-12-2015 05:14 PM

Re: Oil drain tube
 

I dropped the pan today and inspected the oil drain tube. The engine appears to have been rebuilt. The drain tube looks like a replacement type (pipe nipple about 2 1/2 inches long). It was in so tight that I had to remove it with vise grips. I am hoping that Bob Bionde is correct about it being in too much. I was able to blow air through the opening, and it appears to be clear. There is absolutely no sludge in the engine or valve galley. Once I get the pan and oil pump back on, I will let you know if the problem is corrected. Thanks to all. John

Tom Wesenberg 02-12-2015 06:10 PM

Re: Oil drain tube
 

2 1/2" sounds a little short..........isn't it? I'll have to see if I have a spare original tube to measure.

edmondclinton 02-12-2015 06:11 PM

Re: Oil drain tube
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by 29spcoupe (Post 1032615)
I dropped the pan today and inspected the oil drain tube. The engine appears to have been rebuilt. The drain tube looks like a replacement type (pipe nipple about 2 1/2 inches long). It was in so tight that I had to remove it with vise grips. I am hoping that Bob Bionde is correct about it being in too much. I was able to blow air through the opening, and it appears to be clear. There is absolutely no sludge in the engine or valve galley. Once I get the pan and oil pump back on, I will let you know if the problem is corrected. Thanks to all. John

I haven't measured one in years but make sure that yours is long enough so that the end of it stays submerged in the oil at all times, even if the oil should happen to get a little low. I have seen them before where the pipes would get broken off by people when doing overhauls, etc. and they would cut the pipe shorter and rethread the end and screw it back in the hole. Everything would be fine until the oil got lower and then the end of the pipe would get exposed to the crankcase pressure and it would travel up the tube and push oil out the back. And of course if a repo pipe or an original was too short the effect would be the same with the oil at full.

29spcoupe 02-12-2015 06:37 PM

Re: Oil drain tube
 

Mine is definitely a brass pipe nipple. I looked at Snyders' catalog and their tube has a bend in it, but I can't tell the length. I will check with them tomorrow. By looking in the catalog, and comparing the picture with my tube, mine seems to be shorter than the longer part of theirs before the bend. Guess I'll have to call them. John

edmondclinton 02-12-2015 07:44 PM

Re: Oil drain tube
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe K (Post 1032480)
That ball bearing'ed tube may have been a factory install on an engine headed for AA truck use.

The Service Bulletins describe the one-way drain tube variant for "trucks in service where the angle of incline is found regularly greater than 15 degrees" or some such descriptive.

Sort of the reverse of the cotter pin in the flywheel housing IMHO. I expect a LOT of these were removed/retro'ed after getting plugged up on the ball.

Joe K

My original Ford Chassis Parts book used at a dealership, dated 1950, lists the same pipe as the replacement for either a car or truck and says "ball check type" and there is no mention of the regular type pipe that we all know. The book says the following:

A-6328-A -- Pipe assy (crankshaft rear bearing oil) - ball check type - 5/16" O.D. 1 required Pass, Comm & Truck (4 cyl) 1928-30

A-6328-B -- Pipe assy (crankshaft rear bearing oil) - ball check type - 3/8" O.D. 1 required Pass, Comm & Truck (4 cyl) 1930-31

edmondclinton 02-12-2015 08:04 PM

Re: Oil drain tube
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by 29spcoupe (Post 1032662)
Mine is definitely a brass pipe nipple. I looked at Snyders' catalog and their tube has a bend in it, but I can't tell the length. I will check with them tomorrow. By looking in the catalog, and comparing the picture with my tube, mine seems to be shorter than the longer part of theirs before the bend. Guess I'll have to call them. John


You mean yours does not have a bend and the entire pipe is made of brass?

29spcoupe 02-12-2015 08:08 PM

Re: Oil drain tube
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by edmondclinton (Post 1032710)
You mean yours does not have a bend and the entire pipe is made of brass?

Yes

edmondclinton 02-12-2015 10:57 PM

Re: Oil drain tube
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by 29spcoupe (Post 1032713)
Yes

Well make sure it is long enough to stay submerged in the oil.

29spcoupe 02-13-2015 08:50 AM

Re: Oil drain tube
 

I ordered he drain tube today. I am assuming he bend is toward the front of the engine so that it sits in the dripper tray. Is this correct? John

Dave in MN 02-13-2015 01:24 PM

Re: Oil drain tube
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by 29spcoupe (Post 1032936)
I ordered he drain tube today. I am assuming he bend is toward the front of the engine so that it sits in the dripper tray. Is this correct? John

No it passes behind the tray and is submerged in the oil in the pan.
Good Day!

29spcoupe 02-13-2015 07:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave in MN (Post 1033078)
No it passes behind the tray and is submerged in the oil in the pan.
Good Day!

Thanks Dave. John


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