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vista525 05-27-2020 01:28 PM

Source for valve spring shims
 

Can someone point me to a source for reasonably priced valve spring shims for an 8BA. Red’s has them in three sizes for a great price but the shipping is a killer ($22 bucks on an $18 order). I suppose $21 of that cost is California taxes so I can’t hold it against them. Speedway only carries them in one size and apparently they must be gold plated and hand forged by hot rod monks on a mountain top in the Himalayas. As proof that I’m not a cheapskate I’d like to submit that my 49 F1 does not have a small block Chevy. Any chance there’s a NAPA part number(s) I’m missing? Thanks

40cpe 05-27-2020 01:40 PM

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GOSFAST here on the 'Barn handles a lot of flathead valve related parts. you might try to PM him.

G.M. 05-27-2020 01:55 PM

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Valve springs need to be measured with a special valve spring measuring
machine. A load is put on the spring and it should be a specific length at
a measured amount of pressure. G.M.

Mart 05-27-2020 02:09 PM

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Yeah, it's called bathroom scales on a drill press.

vista525 05-27-2020 02:19 PM

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Yep got a spring scale.

G.M. 05-27-2020 02:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mart (Post 1892608)
Yeah, it's called bathroom scales on a drill press.

Very precise. G.M.

vista525 05-27-2020 02:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 40cpe (Post 1892599)
GOSFAST here on the 'Barn handles a lot of flathead valve related parts. you might try to PM him.

Thanks.

flatheadmurre 05-27-2020 03:43 PM

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Go to your local machineshop and ask for A-101 B-101 or C-101 valvespring shims...not sure i ever used a .015 balancing shim on a flathead though.
They cost $20 for a box of 100 so even if they double their money it cant be to bad...lol

KiWinUS 05-27-2020 04:25 PM

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Murre nailed it , or go direct to Goodson , shims cheap S&H will hurt though.

vista525 05-27-2020 08:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by flatheadmurre (Post 1892638)
Go to your local machineshop and ask for A-101 B-101 or C-101 valvespring shims...not sure i ever used a .015 balancing shim on a flathead though.
They cost $20 for a box of 100 so even if they double their money it cant be to bad...lol

Great idea. Thanks for the part numbers!

eicke 05-27-2020 09:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mart (Post 1892608)
Yeah, it's called bathroom scales on a drill press.

Yep....more accurate that the tool designed for the purpose!

Mart,
You need to do a video on this...…..

-Ron

richard crow 05-28-2020 07:43 AM

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what do you need them fore the higher the spring pressure the more load on the camshaft & lifters let us know how maney times you put your eng over 4,000

Kube 05-28-2020 08:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by richard crow (Post 1892881)
what do you need them fore the higher the spring pressure the more load on the camshaft & lifters let us know how maney times you put your eng over 4,000

A properly done valve job always includes measuring the spring load at a very specific compressed height. To simply take a spring out of the box and install it is less than professional. Especially these days when quality of parts is too often questionable.

KiWinUS 05-28-2020 08:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kube (Post 1892901)
A properly done valve job always includes measuring the spring load at a very specific compressed height. To simply take a spring out of the box and install it is less than professional. Especially these days when quality of parts is too often questionable.

Amen

flatheadmurre 05-28-2020 08:53 AM

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Measuring to verify is good...then comes the question of how good between springs is enough...i have never ever installed a balancing shim on a flathead at this low springpressures it´s not a hair between make it and break it...

GOSFAST 05-28-2020 09:04 AM

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If you end up ordering the spring shims don't waste your money ordering the "C" series (.015") you won't have much use for them!

Thanks, Gary in N.Y.

P.S. A single "C" shim (.015") will change the pressure by about 1 pound, we gave up stocking them a few years ago! We only keep the "A's" (.060") and the "B's" (.030"). The "B's" will change it by less than 5# and the "A's" less the 10#.

barnfind 05-28-2020 10:48 AM

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If you have NAPA in your area check with them.

Ronnie 05-28-2020 11:46 AM

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Check with your local machine shop they may have them but can order them for you.


R

vista525 05-28-2020 06:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by richard crow (Post 1892881)
what do you need them fore the higher the spring pressure the more load on the camshaft & lifters let us know how maney times you put your eng over 4,000

I’m not building a racing engine but I have to agree with Kube on this one. If I’m going to assemble the engine I’m going to do it to the highest possible standard I can. If nothing else it will make me feel better.

vista525 05-28-2020 06:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GOSFAST (Post 1892909)
If you end up ordering the spring shims don't waste your money ordering the "C" series (.015") you won't have much use for them!

Thanks, Gary in N.Y.

P.S. A single "C" shim (.015") will change the pressure by about 1 pound, we gave up stocking them a few years ago! We only keep the "A's" (.060") and the "B's" (.030"). The "B's" will change it by less than 5# and the "A's" less the 10#.

Awesome post script! Glad you shared this info. The #change for each shim will definitely be helpful for anyone who stumbles on this thread.


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