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kenparker 01-15-2020 06:55 PM

crankshaft counterweights
 

Who makes or offers counterweights that can be either bolted or welded onto the Model a crankshaft? ken

Synchro909 01-15-2020 07:51 PM

Re: crankshaft counterweights
 

You guys are better off than we are for making those. They should be 5/8" thick but we have been metric for decades so 16mm is the nearest we can get. It's very close and most use it anyway. I had mine lazer cut. The design is VERY simple and involves only the cutting of 2 circles. I have the dimensions somewhere which I am happy to post if no one else posts them first.
One circle is the outside diameter of the weight and the other, the inner circle (where it goes on the crankshaft). The two circles don't have the same centre.
I'd be surprised if there is not someone who can do that for you nearby.

jim1932 01-15-2020 07:57 PM

Re: crankshaft counterweights
 

Schwalms Babbit does it as an exchange. If you call maybe the sell just the weights.

Bob C 01-15-2020 08:49 PM

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Here's some. http://modelaparts.net/special.htm/c...ghtacrank.html

kenparker 01-15-2020 10:27 PM

Re: crankshaft counterweights
 

thankss guys. Iwill call piranios in the morning,.

dansluck 01-15-2020 11:31 PM

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Berts also does it

The Master Cylinder 01-16-2020 12:39 AM

Re: crankshaft counterweights
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenparker (Post 1841824)
thankss guys. Iwill call piranios in the morning,.

Let us know how it goes.

updraught 01-16-2020 01:52 AM

Re: crankshaft counterweights
 

AER says if you buy their touring block it's:

NEW BURLINGTON CRANKSHAFT with touring engine add $800.00

Floats 01-16-2020 08:01 AM

Re: crankshaft counterweights
 

Hi Synchro,
Could I please have the dimensions of the counter weights?
If you decide not to post them here, could you PM or email direct.
Much appreciated
Chris
[email protected]

kenparker 01-16-2020 08:45 AM

Re: crankshaft counterweights
 

Gud mawnin' Syncro. I, too, would like the dimensions/pattern for the weights. either post them here are email to me , if you are a mid to. thanks. [email protected]

rotorwrench 01-16-2020 01:45 PM

Re: crankshaft counterweights
 

Ford sweated them on and pinned them. Model A cranks are dainty enough without welding on them. Dan Price may sell his counterweights separate but they might be a bit different than the factory B cranks. It seems like he uses thicker ones but I don't remember now

Bob C 01-16-2020 03:40 PM

Re: crankshaft counterweights
 

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Here's some like the Ford add on ones. https://www.dan4banger.com/products.html

Synchro909 01-16-2020 06:21 PM

Re: crankshaft counterweights
 

For those who asked for the dimensions, there are 2 way of doing it. They both use the same dimensions to cut out the blank. The first is cut from 1 1/4" thick material and part of the "ring" is milled away to give a counterweight like the ones Bob showed above (which I expect are made to these dimensions). The simplest ones are cut from 5/8" material (the same thickness as the round part of the crankshaft where they are mounted) Now for the dimensions:
  • Draw a straight line and put 2 centre points 1" apart on it. The line is the centerline of the finished counterweight's.
  • About one of the points, draw a 4" diameter circle. That becomes the hole that is later machined ready to be shrunk onto the crank shaft
  • About the other, draw a circle 6 1/2" diameter circle. That is the outside of the C/W
and there you have it - simple
For the thicker ones, the line where the extra metal is milled away is not at right angles to the centerline. It is about 12 1/2 degrees off and since the counterweights face both forwards and back, you will need 2 cut each way.
Attaching them to the crankshaft is up to you. A good shrink fit (allow 0.001 plus 0.001" per inch of diameter for shrink) should be enough but the comfort of a setscrew or bolt or weld as well is OK. If you weld, you might want to check the crank for straight afterwards.
IMO, the simple ones are enough. After all, there have been lots of Model As do lots of miles over lots of years with NO counterweights. A downside to the thicker weights is they will have to be removed if the crankshaft is to be reground at some later date.
PM me or ask on the forum if you have any ?s

kenparker 01-16-2020 07:36 PM

Re: crankshaft counterweights
 

Thanks Syncro for the dimensions. They are added to my notebook file of info I might need someday.
Now, for the goood part. A set of counterweight are on their way to me from Berts and I have a machinist friend on standby to attach them to the crank -some kind of trade out deal with him.

Synchro909 01-16-2020 07:54 PM

Re: crankshaft counterweights
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenparker (Post 1842157)
Thanks Syncro for the dimensions. They are added to my notebook file of info I might need someday.
Now, for the goood part. A set of counterweight are on their way to me from Berts and I have a machinist friend on standby to attach them to the crank -some kind of trade out deal with him.

I prefer the barter system to money too.

Floats 01-17-2020 03:38 AM

Re: crankshaft counterweights
 

Thanks Synchro,
Much appreciated.
The measurements you gave are obviously for the “de luxe” ones.
Do you perhaps have the measurements for the simple ones as well?


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