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Tim Ayers 02-23-2015 09:03 AM

Kit for mating juice brakes to early spindles-Richard's Early V8 garage?
 

Does anyone know where I can buy the hydraulic conversion kit to allow the use of juice backing plates and early spindles?

The kit consists of two steel rings, two smaller adapter rings that slide over the spindle bolts and two cone-shaped shims.

Thanks,

JSeery 02-23-2015 09:19 AM

Re: Kit for mating juice brakes to early spindles-Richard's Early V8 garage?
 

Speedway is not always popular on here, but they have them.

Tim Ayers 02-23-2015 09:29 AM

Re: Kit for mating juice brakes to early spindles-Richard's Early V8 garage?
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSeery (Post 1038784)
Speedway is not always popular on here, but they have them.

Hi:

Do you know what the list it under? I only found the F-100 and Mustang II conversion kits on their site. I guess I could call, but I'd like to have a part # on hand. Seems to help the ordering process.

Thanks,

Tim

325w 02-23-2015 09:31 AM

Re: Kit for mating juice brakes to early spindles-Richard's Early V8 garage?
 

Used to use a top piston ring for the steel ring. Made our own spacers.

Tony, NY 02-23-2015 09:35 AM

Re: Kit for mating juice brakes to early spindles-Richard's Early V8 garage?
 

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Hydrau...ings,3286.html

JSeery 02-23-2015 09:37 AM

Re: Kit for mating juice brakes to early spindles-Richard's Early V8 garage?
 

Well, I'm moving to slow this morning! Tony has it.

Tim Ayers 02-23-2015 09:39 AM

Re: Kit for mating juice brakes to early spindles-Richard's Early V8 garage?
 

Thank you all!

trainguy 02-23-2015 11:27 AM

Re: Kit for mating juice brakes to early spindles-Richard's Early V8 garage?
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSeery (Post 1038784)
Speedway is not always popular on here, but they have them.

I have never had any problems with Speedway,I only wish some of the other suppliers were a good as them!Phil

deuce_roadster 02-23-2015 11:38 AM

Re: Kit for mating juice brakes to early spindles-Richard's Early V8 garage?
 

I have the Early V8 Garage kit on my 32 coupe. Go to their website and call Richard.
Old school way was to use a Model A piston ring and chevy valve seat for the spacer but the piston ring is cast iron and every one I have removed has been broken.

JSeery 02-23-2015 12:06 PM

Re: Kit for mating juice brakes to early spindles-Richard's Early V8 garage?
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by trainguy (Post 1038874)
I have never had any problems with Speedway,I only wish some of the other suppliers were a good as them!Phil

I agree, but because they sell a lot of none USA parts they are not held in high esteem. But it is about the same with most of the suppliers. Only sure way out is NOS!

JM 35 Sedan 02-23-2015 12:24 PM

Re: Kit for mating juice brakes to early spindles-Richard's Early V8 garage?
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by trainguy (Post 1038874)
I have never had any problems with Speedway,I only wish some of the other suppliers were a good as them!Phil

I agree with this post. Have purchased many things from Speedway, and many orders have been heavy parts that were sent with free shipping. I know some of their stuff is "knock off" from China, but I usually know how to avoid that.

john in illinois 02-23-2015 12:59 PM

Re: Kit for mating juice brakes to early spindles-Richard's Early V8 garage?
 

On my model A I had trouble with the cone rotating with the seal and wearing.
This caused frequent wheel bearing adjustments when I was on a long trip.

I discovered MT Car products Had ones that were a light press fit on the spindle and with a little locktite ,they have been trouble free.

http://www.mtcarproducts.com/Adapters-and-Spacers.html

John

Charlie Stephens 02-23-2015 01:40 PM

Re: Kit for mating juice brakes to early spindles-Richard's Early V8 garage?
 

Your problem is the same as they have with a Model A. Try Dennis Cling at clingsaftermarket.com, (480) 777-1202 I am sure he has them. He also modifies backing plates by plugging and redrilling the holes to the new bolt pattern. Most people, myself included, just slot the holes.

Charlie Stephens

Tim Ayers 02-23-2015 01:48 PM

Re: Kit for mating juice brakes to early spindles-Richard's Early V8 garage?
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie Stephens (Post 1038962)
Your problem is the same as they have with a Model A. Try Dennis Cling at clingsaftermarket.com, (480) 777-1202 I am sure he has them. He also modifies backing plates by plugging and redrilling the holes to the new bolt pattern. Most people, myself included, just slot the holes.

Charlie Stephens

I want to install juice plates to '32 spindles.

Kahuna 02-23-2015 02:13 PM

Re: Kit for mating juice brakes to early spindles-Richard's Early V8 garage?
 

Tim
I got brakes for my 32 spindles from Richard @ Early V8 garage. The backing plates (Lincoln type) bolted right on without problem. I also got the spacers, etc from Richard.
Everything fit like a glove, no slotting necessary.

Charlie Stephens 02-23-2015 04:13 PM

Re: Kit for mating juice brakes to early spindles-Richard's Early V8 garage?
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Ayers (Post 1038969)
I want to install juice plates to '32 spindles.

This is what I have on my '32 (post war, 1946-48, Ford brakes). The only problem is that the bolt pattern in the spindles is larger on the hydraulic brakes than it is on the 1928-36 spindles. Although the spindles are different the instructions for the Model A are the same as they are for any 1928-36 passenger chassis. Try Dennis Cling at clingsaftermarket.com, (480) 777-1202 I am sure he has the adapters. He also modifies backing plates by plugging and redrilling the holes to the new bolt pattern. Most people, myself included, just slot the holes. Richard Lacy at [email protected], (626) 338-2282 is also an excellent source of parts and information.

Charlie Stephens

John R 02-23-2015 04:25 PM

Re: Kit for mating juice brakes to early spindles-Richard's Early V8 garage?
 

In my recent experience with the small ring that provides the sealing surface: the one sold by MT and EFV8 Garage is slightly too large (vs. Ford spec) on the ID and needs to be assembled with locktite on the spindle. Some of the spindles are also worn a few thousands in this area, making matters worse.

prpmmp 02-23-2015 08:55 PM

Re: Kit for mating juice brakes to early spindles-Richard's Early V8 garage?
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie Stephens (Post 1039042)
This is what I have on my '32 (post war, 1946-48, Ford brakes). The only problem is that the bolt pattern in the spindles is larger on the hydraulic brakes than it is on the 1928-36 spindles. Although the spindles are different the instructions for the Model A are the same as they are for any 1928-36 passenger chassis. Try Dennis Cling at clingsaftermarket.com, (480) 777-1202 I am sure he has the adapters. He also modifies backing plates by plugging and redrilling the holes to the new bolt pattern. Most people, myself included, just slot the holes. Richard Lacy at [email protected], (626) 338-2282 is also an excellent source of parts and information.

Charlie Stephens

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/t...-fords.215720/ Neat Thread!! Pete

Richard (EV8G) 03-01-2015 08:34 PM

Re: Kit for mating juice brakes to early spindles-Richard's Early V8 garage?
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by John R (Post 1039056)
In my recent experience with the small ring that provides the sealing surface: the one sold by MT and EFV8 Garage is slightly too large (vs. Ford spec) on the ID and needs to be assembled with locktite on the spindle. Some of the spindles are also worn a few thousands in this area, making matters worse.

The bearing spacers from MT and Early V8 Garage were made to be a press fit on UNWORN spindles, but almost all of the spindles have enough wear that red locktite is needed to prevent rotation.

HotRodmicky 03-02-2015 02:29 AM

Re: Kit for mating juice brakes to early spindles-Richard's Early V8 garage?
 

Buy Richards kit!
Way better than speedway


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